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Old 09-08-2005, 08:09 PM   #16
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My father almost literally walked into Elijah Wood on a central Wellington street one morning as he walked to work.

Wellington The most beautiful city in the world. It's been over two years since I've been back.

Id love to visit there. Not just because I'm a Lord of the Rings fanatic...but because it looks like a beautiful place.
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Id love to visit there. Not just because I'm a Lord of the Rings fanatic...but because it looks like a beautiful place.
I can tell my share of LOTR stories. My father's house was just 10-15 minutes from part of the Helm's Deep set, my aunt was part of the production team, and about half of New Zealand appeared as extras!

If you ever get the chance to go to New Zealand, don't hesitate. It truly is amazingly beautiful - and although I'm a North Islander, I'll admit that I think the South Island is more stunning. The Southern Alps and Fjordland are just beyond words.
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Definition of underpopulation:

This occurs when there are too few people in an area to use the resources effectively for a given level of technology. In these circumstances an increase in population would mean a more effective use of resources and increased living standards for all of the people.

Underpopulation is characterised by high per capita incomes (but not maximum incomes), low unemployment and inward migration.

Eg.) Canada and Australia who can export their surplus food, mineral and energy resources.

^Yes, I did just copy that from a book! To me that, especially the second paragraph, describes Australia to a T. BUT you'd, of course, know far more about this whole thing living there than I would. I was just blindly going by what I was told.

Perhaps 'millions more' was a bit OTT on my part but I honestly don't think you've reached a state of optimum population yet. So let's just agree to disagree. However, can we all at least agree on Canada being underpopulated? I'll put up a fight for Canada if anyone disagrees!!
Well, alright. I really don't know where many millions more people could fit, though. Australia has a wealth of resources, but not a wealth of locations to build gigantic cities - indeed, I believe Sydney's built on prime farmland. I live on the Gold Coast, and I think this city is overpopulated for its location: the Hinze Dam is only just supplying enough water, and thousands of people here live on a floodplain or on land reclaimed from sand dunes (no wonder we have beach erosion problems). Not a smart place to put a city.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:36 AM   #19
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I know you like these charts

but I would not trade what I have here in the US (no.10) to live in of the other top 9 countries


and I can easily say
that many in the US have a lousy standard of living
behind many in countries listed below no. 10




here are some facts

year after year the poverty rate in US is going up


and me and my fellow upper income Americans’ net worth and tax cuts are way up



What a country!
Here is the poverty rate in the United States for every year from 1959 to 2004.

1959 22.4%
1960 22.2%
1961 21.9%
1962 21.0%
1963 19.5%
1964 19.0%
1965 17.3%
1966 14.7%
1967 14.2%
1968 12.8%
1969 12.1%
1970 12.6%
1971 12.5%
1972 11.9%
1973 11.1%
1974 11.2%
1975 12.3%
1976 11.8%
1977 11.6%
1978 11.4%
1979 11.7%
1980 13.0%
1981 14.0%
1982 15.0%
1983 15.2%
1984 14.4%
1985 14.0%
1986 13.6%
1987 13.4%
1988 13.0%
1989 12.8%
1990 13.5%
1991 14.2%
1992 14.8%
1993 15.1%
1994 14.5%
1995 13.8%
1996 13.7%
1997 13.3%
1998 12.7%
1999 11.8%
2000 11.3%
2001 11.7%
2002 12.1%
2003 12.5%
2004 12.7%



The average Poverty Rate when Clinton was President: 13.28%

The average Poverty Rate for Bush so far is: 12.25%

While the Poverty rate has increased since 2000, the rate of increase is slowing up, with just an increase of .2% from last year. Next year's figures will probably show the poverty rate leveling off and then decreasing in the following years, provided that the strong economic growth continues.

The lowest recorded poverty rate in this nations history is 11.1% in 1973 when Nixon was in office.

The poverty rate has stayed between 11.1% and 15.2% since 1966.
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i'm ready to move to Norway.
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The average Poverty Rate when Clinton was President: 13.28%

The average Poverty Rate for Bush so far is: 12.25%

So average poverty rate under Clinton - 13.28%, declined by 13% from when he entered office in 1993 15.1%

(1.83 is 13% of 15.1)


and

W's average, 12.25% is 4.7% higher than when he entered office in 2001 11.7%


Sting, by your own post W is a flat out disaster.
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The average Poverty Rate when Clinton was President: 13.28%

The average Poverty Rate for Bush so far is: 12.25%

While the Poverty rate has increased since 2000, the rate of increase is slowing up, with just an increase of .2% from last year. Next year's figures will probably show the poverty rate leveling off and then decreasing in the following years, provided that the strong economic growth continues.

The lowest recorded poverty rate in this nations history is 11.1% in 1973 when Nixon was in office.

The poverty rate has stayed between 11.1% and 15.2% since 1966.
The amazing thing is it hasn´t been going down exceptionally since 1966. Given proper leadership, the U.S. could boast only 2% of poverty rate right now. Oh well but capital needs poverty as we all know.

Oh, and did everyone notice the sharp rise of poverty when Reagan came into office? I remember that. I was in the US in 1978 and everything was so full of luxury, they seemed fine off. Then, when I returned 1984 (or 85)? people on the street, unemployed in NY, a row of three damn blocks of homeless people; Greyhound/ public transport less comfortable and only used by the lower classes; wait for an ambulance for more than an hour,..

but the conservatives
oh yeah the conservatives
they did their little dance and loved it

if there was an arms industry hall of fame, both Reagan and the Bush dynasty would have very prominent places
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TheQuietOne, most cities in Australia are landbanked. End of story.


I've always believed here is freer and more citizen friendly than the US. It isn't just bias. We bitch and moan, but what we bitch and moan about, you lot have groups still fighting for. It's not ideal.

Hey Axver, where's Timothius?
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1. Norway
2. Iceland
3. Australia
4. Luxembourg
5. Canada


A heathy private sector, and a healthy public sector. It works.
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Hey, I was just saying geographically Australia is underpopulated. How that actually equates to real life (as with most theoretical stuff) is quite another matter! Not to take into account feasibly habitable/uninhabitable areas of a land mass does make the whole thing ridiculously flawed; that I'll admit.

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