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Old 01-03-2005, 12:20 PM   #1
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Nasty Christians who care less about Poverty than they do gay marraige...

http://www.time.com/time/personofthe...people/13.html

OK, how many of you gave away 90% of your income to help hunger (and Rick doesn't take a salary either)

Anyone in OC (or close by) who's interested, come visit us at Rick's church (saddleback.com or saddlebackfamily.com)
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it would be a better country, and world, if he were to become the face of American Christianity rather than Fallwell, Robertson, Dobson and, yes, W.

sounds like a very admirable person. you're lucky to have him so close.
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I admire Rick Warren greatly. Purpose Driven Life actually is a pretty good book. I was surprised.
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I also agree with you Irvine511 (good to hear from you again)
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Yup, I have a lot of time for Rick and have found "The Purpose Driven Life" an excellent book that has helped to sort out some priorities in my life more thoughtfully. Didn't know that about what he did with his money but am not surprised. "40 Days of purpose" has had quite an impact here locally and around Australia as far as I can gather.
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it would be a better country, and world, if he were to become the face of American Christianity rather than Fallwell, Robertson, Dobson and, yes, W.
I agree
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it would be a better country, and world, if he were to become the face of American Christianity rather than Fallwell, Robertson, Dobson and, yes, W.
I couldn't agree more. He's a great guy.
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That was seriously impressive to hear. I've read some of PDL and wasn't really too crazy about it. Nice to hear this great stuff about him though.
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Not sure what the title has to do with this thread at all.

But I agree with Irvine...
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it would be a better country, and world, if he were to become the face of American Christianity rather than Fallwell, Robertson, Dobson and, yes, W.

sounds like a very admirable person. you're lucky to have him so close.
Nicely put.
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:09 AM   #11
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As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on Rick Warren. For one thing, Saddleback is (or was) a member church of the Southern Bapist Convention. It's a typical, conservative evangelical church right in the middle of a major stronghold for conservative Christians. As for Warren, if it looks like a duck.....
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Those terms (conservative evangelical) seem to be pretty negatively loaded terms these days in USA. My guess is the kind of christians you would think of when you say conservative evangelical would consider Rick Warren to be a raving liberal lunitic. If they met Jesus in his day they may well have thought the same.
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As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on Rick Warren. For one thing, Saddleback is (or was) a member church of the Southern Bapist Convention. It's a typical, conservative evangelical church right in the middle of a major stronghold for conservative Christians. As for Warren, if it looks like a duck.....
As someone who's a member, you couldn't be more wrong.

The main priorities in our church are helping the poor, helping in rehans of about 30 varieties, and routinely sending help to AIDS clinics in Africa.

You're welcome to come see for yourself, or you can continue to display your ignorance.
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It's some conservative evangelicals I don't like, not all of them. I don't like the types who dwell on negativity, and complain about all the stuff they are against, and never talk about the stuff they like. For example, this political nut in my state who wants to ban the gay books. Or the fundamentalists who claim that Catholicism is a Satanic cult. Plenty of decent evangelicals believe that certain things are a sin but they're not on hate trips. There's a difference. The ones who are mainly positive people are cool. The ones who are always complaining are something else.
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Those terms (conservative evangelical) seem to be pretty negatively loaded terms these days in USA. My guess is the kind of christians you would think of when you say conservative evangelical would consider Rick Warren to be a raving liberal lunitic. If they met Jesus in his day they may well have thought the same.
The one quote that always sticks with me about Rick, is when during a sermon one week he said something along the lines of "People ask me what I think Jesus would be doing if he came back today, I'm convinced he'd be working in an AIDS clinic.."

Typical evangelical this Church is not.

We recently set out to feed all of the homeless in OC for 6 weeks, and pretty much achieved that through food drives, donations, food deliveries, standing outside grocery stores asking people to buy food, etc.

Rick is the real deal, he cares more about helping the homeless and the poor than anyone I've ever met.
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