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Old 12-05-2006, 07:28 PM   #16
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noone and nothing could convince me to ever leave earth.

flying is hard enough.

going straight up through the atmosphere and into space?

no thanks.

you lot go ahead without me. i'll keep the earth tidy while you're away.
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Stupid fucking idea.
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In terms of using taxpayers money or in general?
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:48 PM   #19
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I read today that they will land on the southern pole so they can do some mining..Hmm
That is the only way for space travel to become widespread, when we can make money from it.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:49 PM   #20
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In every possible way, really. I do appreciate the need to satisfy burning curiosity and a desire to understand this seemingly non-understandable universe of ours. However, the absolute inability of humankind to manage this satisfactorily leaves me continually opposed to such pursuits.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:06 AM   #22
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'this' would be inhabiting the moon.
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I don't think we can state absolute inability in the absence of an attempt.
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I think we can state a lot in precedent. And we have an endless supply of precedent right here on Earth.
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Indeed we do, from antarctic exploration, powered flight, rocketry, wiping out polio, the green revolution, INTERNET, materials science and nuclear power humanity has shown the capacity to acheive great things, I think that pessimism about whats wrong in the world can cloud the fact the world today is a lot better than it has been historically.
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:27 AM   #27
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Should we start a list of the abuses of our environment? Should we list the leaps and bounds we are progressing in, in fixing our mistakes?

I am not writing here to pat humankind on the back for what we have invented and found and discovered, A_W, but the sheer inability we have to care for and nurture any given environment we inhabit. THAT cannot be argued. Polio vaccines do not mean we can inhabit the moon without fucking that one up, too.
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There is nothing that we could screw up on the moon/mars. There's not going to be any coal burning ruining the atmosphere. There's not going to be any loss of vegetation/animal life beacuse there is none, there is really nothing we could destroy on an already desolate land. Comparing what we do here on Earth to Mars/moon is completely different, there is actually life to destroy on earth. The main fuel that will be used in running the settlements is hydrogen anyway which is very clean. I fail to see how we could pose any threat to these environments.
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I guess it is a kind of new cold war,..the chinese want to go also.
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I don't think the Chinese are anywhere near that stage, the big players will be private in the new space race, of course to do that we have to have orbital spacecraft and beyond and that will take decades to achieve.
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