|02-14-2007, 11:40 PM||#1|
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Join Date: Nov 2000
Local Time: 12:35 PM
My Reply to Deep, re: The Old Testament
In another thread, you wrote the following. I am answering it here, because we were reminded that it is not really on topic for the other thread:
You know, in the Old Testament, God actually commands that his people kill people in the nations they invade. I know that all the nations they invaded were nations with all sorts of wicked practices. But to be perfectly frank and honest with you, this type of thing in the Old Testament bothers me.
The truth is that I can't begin to understand the Old Testament completely. The New Testament is a lot easier for me, because with the exception of the 33 years that Jesus lived on the Earth, it's all about The New Covenant, in whcih man is granted mercy and forgiveness if he believes upon the death and resurrection of Christ and follows him. Sure, God granted mercy in the Old Testament, but there are also many times when he poured forth his wrath, and when he commanded things that I just can't wrap my mind around and that bother me from a human standpoint.
So what do I do? At the end of the day, with the studying done, and the questions about these things still swirling about in my mind, I just have to be perfectly honest with God and say "I just don't get it". And that's the key - I don't understand, and it gets under my skin because I feel like I have to have a good grasp of everything going on. But after I say "I just don't get it", it's followed by "But I put my trust completely upon you, Lord, and believe that you do understand and that there is a reason". I realize that I am a man created by an all powerful, all-knowing God, and do not even have the capacity to understand him completely. There will always be things I don't understand, but my faith remains that there is an answer and there is a reason.
So, if certain things in the Old Testament bother my human mind, why do I still believe in the OT; why don't I just chuck it and believe in the New Testament? Several reasons.
First, since I know that I know nothing compared to God, it would be intellectually dishonest for me to throw out things just because I, in my limited human ability to reason, do not understand them.
Secondly, the Old Testament and New Testament are so intricately woven together by culture, history and most importantly prophecy. Without the OT, there would be no NT. Look at the following ways the two testament are bound together:
(1) The OT explains the law, which was the first covenant, then in the NT, Christ comes along, fulfills the law and those who follow him are now under the new covenant, grace, made possible by the redeeming sacrifice of Christ on a cross.
(2) The OT documents and explains how the lineage of David and thus Christ himself, was preserved and blessed by God. In the New Testament, Christ is born, fulfilling the mission of this highly favored lineage.
(3) The OT is chock full of prophecy about the coming Messiah. In fact, the first prophecy is in the early chapters of the first book, Genesis. Then in the New Testament, Christ comes along and fulfills them all.
There are many other ways in which the two testaments are woven together.
And that's the best reply I can come up with. I know it was probably more than you asked for, but I had to elaborate to this depth to explain my thoughts on the Old Testament.
Note to anyone who might be reading: As I am posting this, I really only seek to address something Deep wrote in another thread. I am not really designing it as a "thread starter" but if you folks would like to discuss further, please do, I won't get into argument about this, because it is stuff that I have gone over and over in my mind, heart and soul. I am confident in what I believe, and if I have further questions about stuff like this, it is best that I seek advice and wisdom from people who know me personally.
|02-15-2007, 07:43 AM||#2|
Join Date: Aug 2001
Local Time: 01:35 PM
Re: My Reply to Deep, re: The Old Testament
In terms of morality, however, the OT was deemed obsolete. They didn't feel the need to explain or justify every bizarre thing written in Mosaic Law, because the NT was written to supersede it. That was part of the "liberation" of Christ, after all.
Of course, that's not to say that later Christians have followed the early Church fathers' original intent regarding the OT, and it certainly makes me cringe over how many modern Christians cite the OT as a reason to believe any number of bizarre and illogical things. Too many Christians have willingly reshackled themselves to the "law" that Jesus liberated them from.
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