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Old 06-04-2007, 10:24 AM   #16
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I am not for banning religions... NO WAY..........Believe me I am way too LIBERAL for that..

Only certain PHILOSPHIES with many religions.. and that too NOT ON A PERSONAL level...but on public level... if the philosphies is proven root cause of loss of lives...( most of them innocent)
( may be reform is the way forward).. On the personal level..anything is acceptable...and I am no one to interfere...

I have no problems with anyone who believes in anything or anything they want to...All people are welcome to believe whatever..

Thanks everyone else for their response :-)

As pointed out by A_Wanderer...I am going to believe that OPEN, LIBERAL, SECULAR and SCIENTIFIC society is the way forward....

I am glad we didnt spin off on ...on religions are good..interpretation is bad.... etc etc....
I understand your concern, but I think it'd be a stretch to ban anyone's line of thinking. That doesn't sound very liberal to me. Where should the line be drawn? Who makes the call on what should be banned? What's the penalty for crossing the line?
Again, I understand you're concern, but I don't think it's such a black and white issue like that. Plus, like I said before, don't mistake the evil actions carried out by religious nuts as fruit of the actual faith they claim to be living out. Too often good religions get twisted for personal gain. This is when things get ugly.
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coemegan...I agree with you. I don't think that actions motivated by religion(unless its black magic or something like that)that is properly understood are evil. I simply was trying to say that religious belief has been a huge motivator behind many of the great things that have happened.
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I understand. I just don't think we should ban anything. It's often just nuts making it into their own thing anyway. If we banned a certain philosophy, they'd find something else to be nuts about.

We should ban nuts.
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And no, I'm not calling for world wide castration.
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I understand. I just don't think we should ban anything. It's often just nuts making it into their own thing anyway. If we banned a certain philosophy, they'd find something else to be nuts about.

We should ban nuts.
So you're ok with Mormons then or do you consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons)"nuts"?

Based on your posts in other threads you suggest that they teach a strange Gospel, and that yours is more correct version than theirs.

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Wow, diamond. Now you're picking fights?
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Wow, diamond. Now you're picking fights?
Nope, posed a question is all.
So where do you stand?

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Well, my reference to religious nuts earlier was in response to those who commit evil acts, such as murder in the name of religion. That's it. It wasn't a matter of people having differing views than mine being nuts. I'm sure you'd like to think I meant that though.

No, I wouldn't say Mormons in general are religious nuts, just misguided.

Although, Brigham Young certainly fits the earlier description of a religious figure responsible for murder.
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The only parts of religion that should be banned are those that have to do with specific segregation, like those religions that look at homosexuality (which is not a choice) as a sin. Homosexuality should not be looked upon as sinful, religion or not, when there is proof that they cannot control it.

In those cases, religion should be forced to alter itself.
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Well, my reference to religious nuts earlier was in response to those who commit evil acts, such as murder in the name of religion. That's it. It wasn't a matter of people having differing views than mine being nuts. I'm sure you'd like to think I meant that though.

No, I wouldn't say Mormons in general are religious nuts, just misguided.

Although, Brigham Young certainly fits the earlier description of a religious figure responsible for murder.
Speculation on your part and others as well as others
And if Bringham were alive today you and those could be sued for libel.

Oh and thanks for not wanting to ban Mormons according to your undestanding of Christ's teachings and His Church.

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In those cases, religion should be forced to alter itself.
How?
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Speculation on your part and others as well as others
And if Bringham were alive today you and those could be sued for libel.

Oh and thanks for not wanting to ban Mormons according to your undestanding of Christ's teachings and His Church.

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Well, a lot of people believe this. It was even mentioned on that Mormon documentary on PBS. Remember the Mormon man who appologized and said it was a dark period for the church?

If Brigham Young were alive today there's no possible way he could sue me for libel. I'm simply mentioning this in a thread, I'm not publishing it in a newspaper.

And you're welcome for me not wanting to ban Mormons - as if it were up to me.
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And you're welcome for me not wanting to ban Mormons - as if it were up to me.
Exactly my point, I don't think it's anybody's right under the Constitution.

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I fully agree with you. That's what I've been basically saying this whole time.
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The only parts of religion that should be banned are those that have to do with specific segregation, like those religions that look at homosexuality (which is not a choice) as a sin. Homosexuality should not be looked upon as sinful, religion or not, when there is proof that they cannot control it.

In those cases, religion should be forced to alter itself.
If homosexuality was a choice would it be a sin?
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