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Old 04-21-2003, 03:44 PM   #16
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Diamond, this was a good post. I am happy to read of the Peak being renamed after Lori.
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Old 04-22-2003, 06:55 PM   #17
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The party still selectively panders to bigots in close campaigns. The fact that they have a home in the party and influence is troubling to me. They only get in trouble with the party, if it costs them politically.
If the party purged them as you suggest they could not win the close elections we have had lately.

I hope intolerance and even hostility to gays and lesbians bothers you also. America should be for all people. People who work hard, pay taxes and obey the laws should not be treated as less than others.
The American Revolution was fought because of taxation without representation. Now, there are many that make a full contribution and even sacrifice for their country and do not receive the same benefits as others.
I am not surprised that a dead Indian is a good Indian.


Well, in a rush to back slapping no one addressed my concern of tolerated bigotry.


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Santorum's Remarks About Gays Spur Calls for Censure
From Associated Press

April 22, 2003

WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON Gay rights groups, fuming over Sen. Rick Santorum's comparison of homosexuality to bigamy, polygamy, incest and adultery, urged Republican leaders on Monday to consider removing the Pennsylvania lawmaker from the GOP Senate leadership.
The coalition of groups compared Santorum's remarks to those made in December by Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi about Strom Thurmond's 1948 segregationist campaign for the presidency. Shortly afterward, Lott was forced to resign as GOP Senate leader.

Santorum is chairman of the GOP conference in the Senate, third in his party's leadership.

"We're urging the Republican leadership to condemn the remarks. They were stunning in their insensitivity, and they're the same types of remarks that sparked outrage toward Senator Lott," said David Smith, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay advocacy group. "We would ask that the leadership reconsider his standing within the conference leadership."

In an interview with Associated Press, Santorum criticized homosexuality while discussing a pending Supreme Court case over a Texas sodomy law.

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything," he said.

Santorum spokeswoman Erica Clayton Wright said the lawmaker's comments "were specific" to the Supreme Court case.
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Old 04-22-2003, 06:58 PM   #18
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Deep, meegannie has already started a thread about this issue.

http://forum.interference.com/showth...threadid=75946

You can discuss Sen. Santorum's statements there.
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Pax,

This thread is about gripes with the Rep. party.

There are some who have stated the party does not tolerate bigotry.

I did not want to start a thread on the Senator's remarks, but only ask those who say the party is mending it's ways to respond to this.

I don't think they will.
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Diamond,
I don't think anyone suggested that *every* Republican is bigoted and homophobic, but I'm sure you agree it's very worrying that someone with such extreme homophobic views as Senator Santorum is welcomed at high levels of the Republican party.
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keyword="every".
other key words..
open-mindedness
compassionate
tolerant

all traits of the New Republicans

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Well, to be fair, the fact that the third most senior Republican is a bigoted doesn't really give credibility to your argument that Republicans are tolerant!

I'm not saying there aren't many individual Republicans who are tolerant and I'm definitely not accusing you of being intolerant, but you can't really blame people for having concerns about the Republican party when it has men like Senator Santorum in its leadership!
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Log Cabin Club pictures are not going to erase the images I have of your party's highest speaking at Bob Jones U, patting old Strom on the back, pandering to Pat Robertson, trying to dismantle Affirmative Action at every turn. Here in California, your Pete Wilson was getting his ass kicked until he was able to blame the state's problems on the "illegals" and play on the old white folks' fear of anyone darker and different.

No, diamond; it's not a big tent. It's narrow and cramped, and filled with the fearful.
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Oh yeah...that time that Bush spoke at BJU absolutely disgusted me. How DARE that man go and support people who are bigoted against black people, gay people, Catholics, women and many others. How DARE he speak at a college which at the time forbade Black and white people to date one another? How DARE he endorse such disgusting views.

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The Log Cabin Republicans havent left, they steered right.



Colored blind Republicans..

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Diamond,
What does that mean?
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Why are there no log cabin Democrates?


Don't think about it, your head might explode.
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The Log Cabin Republicans havent left, they steered right.



Colored blind Republicans..

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Log Cabin Republicans as..
independent thinking people not having to cow-tow to certain overreactionary folk

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So is Condi a lesbian?


or do you just roll all minoities together?
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