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Old 04-25-2003, 03:21 PM   #1
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Muslim's stop UN vote on gay rights.

Muslim alliance derails UN's gay rights resolution

Andrew Osborn
Friday April 25, 2003
The Guardian

A UN vote on homosexual human rights was yesterday derailed at the last minute by an alliance of disapproving Muslim countries.
The UN had been due to vote on the matter for the first time in its almost 60-year history, but five Muslim countries delayed the vote until today and introduced amendments designed to kill it off.

The amendments remove all references to discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, and render the resolution meaningless.

UN sources said Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia and Malaysia were doing everything they could to stop the resolution. "I suspect they want to stall as much as possible and lobby other countries to win support for their amendments," said a source.

The historic resolution on "human rights and sexual orientation" was originally tabled by Brazil at the UN commission on human rights, in Geneva, with the support of 19 other countries including Britain. It calls on all UN member states to promote and protect the human rights "of all persons regardless of their sexual orientation".

But the sentiments are anathema to many UN states; almost half outlaw gay sexual relations and more than 70 countries keep a total ban on homosexuality - in some cases it is punished by death.

The British gay rights campaigner, Peter Tatchell, said: "The vote has been derailed and delayed by Islamic fundamentalist states where gay people are either jailed, flogged or beheaded."

He said those countries' records of gay human rights abuses showed why the resolution was urgently needed.
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Now you can see why I have no sympathy for Muslim countries. Maybe it's time to "liberate" a few more.

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Bigotry makes strange "bedfellows".

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Now you can see why I have no sympathy for Muslim countries. Maybe it's time to "liberate" a few more.

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Yeah, good idea.

Maybe we should start with Texas.
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Yeah, good idea.

Maybe we should start with Texas.
Sounds like a good idea to me.

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Anyone know the USA position on this?
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Anyone know the USA position on this?
The U.S. and Muslim countries usually vote the same on these kinds of issues. I'm sure they are opposed to this, but are being noticeably silent.

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i'm pro for equality for marginalized people, including gays, women, and the disabled.

i certainly don't think it's fair to impose muslim beliefs on the western world... but then again, i don't think it's fair for the opposite to happen....
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i certainly don't think it's fair to impose muslim beliefs on the western world... but then again, i don't think it's fair for the opposite to happen....
I've been unequivocally for separation of church and state on the grounds that religion refuses to protect the dignity of all people, whether they are of a different religion, different gender, different race, or different sexuality.

While Islam might be this "cool" little anthropological antiquity for Western liberals, no one, no matter what part of the world it is in, has the right to abuse and murder people of different beliefs. I don't care who or where it is: it is not right that the dominant religion of any part of the world can marginalize, abuse, or execute homosexuals. Period.

I don't care if you're Dr. Laura, Sen. Santorum, Mullah Omar, or the Pope: they're all bigots of different colors and they're all wrong. Secularism is the only thing that keeps these peoples' beliefs from infringing on homosexuals' rights to live in disagreement, and is a value that should be fostered worldwide.

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i agree with you melon... i've gotta a few things to add but i've gotta go though... it's my easter this week.
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I actually agree with Melon on this one.

As a good friend once commented to me, sometimes it's the culture that needs some improvement. Every culture could use improvement in some way.

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my culture is perfect. i dont need to change. its the 90's, ive gotten used to it - and im not changing again.
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The British gay rights campaigner, Peter Tatchell, said: "The vote has been derailed and delayed by Islamic fundamentalist states where gay people are either jailed, flogged or beheaded."

He said those countries' records of gay human rights abuses showed why the resolution was urgently needed.
As far as I know, Malaysians don't get flogged or beheaded for being gay. But sodomy is a crime in every state, so people do get jailed. Also, there's a great underground culture of Muslim gays and they roam certain parts of the city freely, including trannies. Just want to clarify.

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