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Old 09-16-2004, 08:31 AM   #106
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Now how in the world can she state that she didn't type the memos, but knows that the contents are accurate???

More bull from the Kerry campaign....
So the Kerry campaign is masterminding the forged CBS documents but the Bush campaign had nothing to do with the Swift Boat Vets?

Anyhow, she stated that she didn't type those memos, but that she had written similar ones, and that the CBS memos accurately reflected Killian's feelings and Bush's actions at the time.
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Anyhow, she stated that she didn't type those memos, but that she had written similar ones, and that the CBS memos accurately reflected Killian's feelings and Bush's actions at the time.
I guess she was in on all the personnel review meetings..... right
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So the Kerry campaign is masterminding the forged CBS documents but the Bush campaign had nothing to do with the Swift Boat Vets?

At least you can put names to the SBVT group.


And, the DNC was so quick to run ads based on the fraudulent memo.




Keep going Kerry, you are showing real leadership here
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I guess she was in on all the personnel review meetings..... right
She was his secretary. She typed his stuff, she talked with him. Why is it unreasonable that she would possess the knowledge that she claims to possess?
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At least you can put names to the SBVT group.


And, the DNC was so quick to run ads based on the fraudulent memo.




Keep going Kerry, you are showing real leadership here
The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.
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Kerry and campaign should drop the campaign attacks on Bush's Vietnam record in the National Guard. I know it hurts them emotionally (Kerry & co.) to not get back at the conservatives/ repugs for being attacked by the Swift Boat Vets but the whole issue is counter-productive to their campaign, especially with the election coming in real soon and Kerry's campaign being run as poorly as it is. The idea that they will find proof/ or a smoking gun that will hurt Bush is very small and wasting time. Barnes was always a questionable source and those memos are dragging their campaign down rather than hurting Bush. The Kerry campaign is lucky as hell that they have hurricane weather b/c IMO news orgs would probably focus even more on those shady documents and the potential image of a Citizne Kane like image of CBS news.

Kerry needs to focus on the economy, post-war Iraq (not the war itself), health care....

Bush is relatively weak in those areas. Also change up his line of attack in terms of the economy. IMO the whole economy is getting better argument by the Bush campaign is relatively strong so Kerry would need to attack at another angle.

Kerry and co are fishing in the wrong pond.

So what. Bush has already been elected President even with all the innuendo and rumors. Its also been known that Bush was a drunk and hellraiser who shaped up in terms of that aspect of his life. People will accept Bush's mistakes and put them together with whatever
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The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

Hmmm. Bush hasn't protested or even asked Kerry to pull the smear campaign ads.

I guess the words "honorable discharge" say enough.
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Rather Backs Down, Will The DNC??

Rather Concedes Papers Are Suspect
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Hmmm. Bush hasn't protested or even asked Kerry to pull the smear campaign ads.

I guess the words "honorable discharge" say enough.
If I were Bush I wouldn't wait until someone else discredited the CBS documents. I'd tell anyone who would listen that I never disobeyed a direct order, and that anyone who said that was a flat out liar. The White House Press Secretary said that the White House had every reason to believe that the documents were authentic, and that Laura Bush said the documents were "probably" fake. If the charges made in those documents were untrue it would be pretty easy for the Bush team to immediately refute tnem on a factual basis, wouldn't it? Why didn't they?
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Talking about the memos gives them a level of dignity. I guess these memos fall below that level.
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They did talk about the memos. They released copies to the press. Scott McClellan said, "We received those documents from a major news organization. We had every reason to believe that they were authentic at that time." If the charges contained in the documents were false the White House should have said so right away, but they didn't. Why would the White House beleive that the documents were "authentic" if the things they said weren't true?
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Maybe b/c they actually thought there were no more documents to be found. Maybe they trusted CBS and had no answer.
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They did talk about the memos. They released copies to the press. Scott McClellan said, "We received those documents from a major news organization. We had every reason to believe that they were authentic at that time." If the charges contained in the documents were false the White House should have said so right away, but they didn't. Why would the White House beleive that the documents were "authentic" if the things they said weren't true?
It was over 30 years ago and the Bush campaign and Bush himself do not remember, have all the documents about everything that happened that long ago. This is all pointless speculation, about things which are, today, essentially irrelevant.
Whether Bush should be re-elected as President or not is based on what he has done the past four years, not on some fantasy BS from 30 years ago.

The Democrats have spent the past 6 years attacking Bush's National Guard record and they have failed to prove any of their chief claims. If they want to, they can bring up Bush's Guard service in the 2008 election. As silly as that would be, they are currently on track to do just that.
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Nice dodge.
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Whether Bush should be re-elected as President or not is based on what he has done the past four years, not on some fantasy BS from 30 years ago.

Bush barely got into the Whitehouse 4 years ago. He has dodge his past and not come clean. In 72 and 73 I was 17 and 18. There are a dozen people or so that I worked with and went to school with that could recall spending time with me.

It seems everybody has an opinion where Kerry was and will say so. We even know where Cheney was then.

Where are the missing six months or so
of W's life experience?

"It does not matter" does not wash.
If the truth was known,
Would the 2000 election have been different?

The argument he deserves a second term based on the last fours years is like saying "Let a college professor who lied about his degrees on his resume keep the job because he is doing ok."
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