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Old 09-17-2004, 05:10 PM   #136
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If one thinks there is something wrong with Bush's Guard record, it is INCUMBENT on them to prove it! .

That is the same logic that supports the FACT that O. J. Simpson is not responsible for Nicole's and Ron's murders.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:19 PM   #137
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That is the same logic that supports the FACT that O. J. Simpson is not responsible for Nicole's and Ron's murders.
Not even close.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:29 PM   #138
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If one thinks there is something wrong with Bush's Guard record, it is INCUMBENT on them to prove it!
Same way it was incumbent upon Bush to prove that Saddam didn't have WMD?

Also, is it true that Bush never lied about his military service?
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Old 09-17-2004, 06:31 PM   #139
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Same way it was incumbent upon Bush to prove that Saddam didn't have WMD?

Also, is it true that Bush never lied about his military service?
Incorrect. It was Saddam who invaded Kuwait in 1991 and the terms of the 1991 Gulf War Ceacefire stated that Saddam was required to VERIFIABLY disarm of all WMD. As Colin Powell said in 2002, "It is not incumbent upon the United States to prove that Iraq has WMD, it is incumbent upon Iraq to prove that they do not". Iraq was the violater, not the United States. Iraq agreed to the terms of the 1991 Gulf War Ceacefire which required Saddam to VERIFIABLY DISARM or face renewed military action. The United States and other member states of the United Nations DID NOT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING! Action on resolving the issue peacefully was required by SADDAM, not member states of the UN.
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http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14054

Federal judge orders Pentagon to find Bush records

By The Associated Press
09.17.04
WASHINGTON — A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush’s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the Associated Press.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order on Sept. 15 in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush’s days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets.

Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Sept. 20. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records.

“We’re hopeful the Department of Defense will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld,” said AP lawyer David Schulz.

White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president’s records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February.

Through a series of requests under the federal open-records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered
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WASHINGTON — A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush’s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the Associated Press.
I hope they release it and step further to more important things (also i know that it shows something about the candidates character) than what one candidate did years ago.
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:06 AM   #142
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Now, if Kerry would sign Form 180, we would have all the information on the table and can put these petty issues behind us.
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CBS is now the Victim

CBS News Concludes It Was Misled on National Guard Memos, Network Officials Say

This is actually scary for an "objective" news source. They want to believe the false memos and will continue to report the viewpoint.

It sounds as if they have made up their mind and will search for facts to support it. Perhaps they should join forces with the DNC.
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Oh sorry I didn't know it was already posted. I thought if this had been posted it wouldn't have dropped so far down the page and there would be more discussion on it (guess nobody wants to hear this ) Or is this a different story?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=3...Administration
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Same story, different sources.

Now, will the DNC continue to run ads based on faked memos? Where is Kerry's call to stop the attacks?
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Yeah, do I smell a Watergate type scandal?
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