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Old 01-04-2004, 04:54 PM   #1
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Moveon.org Features Ad Comparing Bush to Hitler

[Q]MOVEON.ORG FEATURES AD COMPARING BUSH TO HITLER...

ONLINE CONTEST TO MAKE BEST SPOT TURNS VICIOUS. WEBSITE FEATURED AD, LATER PULLED IT AFTER COMPLAINTS, DRUDGE HAS LEARNED.

SEE MOVEON.ORG HITLER/BUSH AD CONTENDER...

MOVEON.ORG SCRIPT

GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: We have taken new measures to protect our homeland,

GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator,

GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them,

GRAPHIC: Pictures of President Bush
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.

CHYRON: SOUND FAMILIAR?
BACKGROUND: Cheering German Crowd



[The MoveOn.org rules they say: Content: We're NOT looking for the same old slick political ads from Washington media consultants. Instead, we're looking for really creative ads that will engage and enlighten viewers and help them understand the truth about George Bush. There are some legal limits on what you can do (see below), and we're not going to post anything that would be inappropriate for television, but other than that what you put in your ads is up to you (live action, animation, personal rant, whatever!)[/Q]

Enough already.......There is something seriously wrong with this.
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I got an e-mail to this effect this morning. I deleted it. Speaking of shooting yourself in the foot. I hate this , it's like watching the Titanic sink. While I am not a Bush supporter he's not Hitler, Milosevic, Ceceauscu or Saddam and I totally disapprove of and disassociate myself from this rhetoric.
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the hatred for bush is beyond belief. you'd think he was caught beating puppies with a sledge hammer or somethin. it's way beyond simple disagreement, or even dislike... it truely is hate. i think it's why dean is leading the dems... he preaches to those who hate bush. i watched the iowa debates today and dean was gettin' smacked around by the other candidates... but i'd be surpised if gephardt gets enough to overtake him, and i don't think clark or kerry can surpass him in new hampshire either... stupifying.
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There has to be some point where people on both sides of political ideology say enough is enough already.

The people who supported Bush in the primaries last time around were guilty of smearing McCain viciously over his adopted child if I am not mistaken, once the campaign made its way south.

When does it stop? Al Gore should be embarrased for associating himself with this group.
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Yeah...I know they pulled it....Whooopie
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Re: Moveon.org Features Ad Comparing Bush to Hitler

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[Q]MOVEON.ORG FEATURES AD COMPARING BUSH TO HITLER...

ONLINE CONTEST TO MAKE BEST SPOT TURNS VICIOUS. WEBSITE FEATURED AD, LATER PULLED IT AFTER COMPLAINTS, DRUDGE HAS LEARNED.

SEE MOVEON.ORG HITLER/BUSH AD CONTENDER...

MOVEON.ORG SCRIPT

GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: We have taken new measures to protect our homeland,

GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator,

GRAPHIC: Pictures Of Hitler
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them,

GRAPHIC: Pictures of President Bush
HITLER: (Speaking In German)
CHYRON: and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.

CHYRON: SOUND FAMILIAR?
BACKGROUND: Cheering German Crowd



[The MoveOn.org rules they say: Content: We're NOT looking for the same old slick political ads from Washington media consultants. Instead, we're looking for really creative ads that will engage and enlighten viewers and help them understand the truth about George Bush. There are some legal limits on what you can do (see below), and we're not going to post anything that would be inappropriate for television, but other than that what you put in your ads is up to you (live action, animation, personal rant, whatever!)[/Q]

Enough already.......There is something seriously wrong with this.
Yes I saw this one. One of the more uneducated ads placed in the contest. You have them on both sides. You have those that will paint him a halo and those that will paint him horns. Where I don't agree with the comparison, I can understand a little how it comes about. There are those that fear the "liberties" he's taking with OUR LIBERITES. No one at the time knew where Hitler was heading. Now I'm not saying Bush is going the same path, but there will be those who fear the next step and will jump to conclusions in order to use fear to get the man out of office. Unfortunately it's something we're seeing grow on both sides.
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This hate is inexcusable and irrational. I do not agree with many of Bush's policies. But this comparison with Hitler is totally fd up. No Democrat worth his or her salt should be associated with this. I am angered and offended as a liberal. This isn't speaking for me.
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The ever growing amount of hate being embraced by the left is surprising.
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The ever growing amount of hate being embraced by the left is surprising.
It's sad. I feel like someone has stabbed me in the heart. This is not the civilized rational discourse we are supposed to have in a democracy. I fear civilized political debate is becoming a thing of the past.
This scares the out of me. Democracy doesn't work without civilized and rational debate. Don't these people realize how destructive they are being?
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I'll say it... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! already. What's wrong with these people. This is getting scary.
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Yes, let's take this opportunity to smear everyone on the left of the political spectrum.

On this basis, I'd like to condemn all conservatives as homophobic because Michael Howard (he's leader of the Tory party, for those who don't have an interest in British politics) supports Section 28. I'd also like to label all Christians as delusional based on the article Dread posted the other day. And while we're at it, I think all Republicans are racists because wasn't Strom Thurmond a Republican?

It's an isolated example, let's not try to draw far-reaching conclusions from it.
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It works both ways, potentially. During the Clinton Administration some right-wing acquaintances of mine compared him with Hitler. I didn't blame conservatives for blasting the President as a Hitler, just these few. Just because this one thing came out, don't conclude that "liberals think that Bush is Hitler" or whatever. That's not fair. I do not believe that, my liberal family does not, and meanwhile some leftist "buddies" of mine have accused me of selling out to the corporate media because I'm not voting for the Trotskyists. "The left" is not some monolithic, immobile monstrosity of a contraption. We're human beings.
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Yes, let's take this opportunity to smear everyone on the left of the political spectrum.

On this basis, I'd like to condemn all conservatives as homophobic because Michael Howard (he's leader of the Tory party, for those who don't have an interest in British politics) supports Section 28. I'd also like to label all Christians as delusional based on the article Dread posted the other day. And while we're at it, I think all Republicans are racists because wasn't Strom Thurmond a Republican?

It's an isolated example, let's not try to draw far-reaching conclusions from it.
I do not see a single post in here in which anyone attacked everyone on the left. I am puzzled as to why you are taking it that way.......

As I am typing this I am pausing to AGAIN reread the posts....and not ONE person has accused all on the left of being in favor of this. Until now, it was actually an UNPOLITICIZED thread in which there was a common ground about our expectations for the behavior of organizations that are involved in helping to elect our leaders.
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As for Move-on......they have already had the spotlight on them for a few other indescretions in the past few weeks so this is not just the first example of them crossing the line...ie accepting foreign money, which IS illegal. They no longer do it, but they are refusing to disclose how much they took in.
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I do not see a single post in here in which anyone attacked everyone on the left. I am puzzled as to why you are taking it that way.......

As I am typing this I am pausing to AGAIN reread the posts....and not ONE person has accused all on the left of being in favor of this. Until now, it was actually an UNPOLITICIZED thread in which there was a common ground about our expectations for the behavior of organizations that are involved in helping to elect our leaders.
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As for Move-on......they have already had the spotlight on them for a few other indescretions in the past few weeks so this is not just the first example of them crossing the line...ie accepting foreign money, which IS illegal. They no longer do it, but they are refusing to disclose how much they took in.
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The ever growing amount of hate being embraced by the left is surprising.
I think saying that a side "embraces hate" would be an attack on one's leanings and if I'm not mistaken that's what Fizzes response was about.

As for Move-on Dread I've saw your thread about excepting foreign money and still haven't seen any evidence as to if any money was actually collected. Maybe I've overlooked something, if so I apologize. But to make this about Move-on again is ridiculous. I've seen this before about another website(can't remember the exact website) where someone stated an opinion on the website, admittingly a very stupid opinion, and people wanted to attack the website. This is one's opinion, and if you read the disclaimer before viewing any of the ads you would find that they say this is not the opinion of Move-on. This is not about the website, this is about a few individuals who's opinion is very uneducated, end of story. Should interference get held responsible when certain individuals call citizens of another country lower organisms or retards?
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