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Old 11-11-2004, 08:38 AM   #1
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MARINE APCs APPEAR AT ANTI-WAR PROTEST IN WESTWOOD

LOS ANGELES, November 9, 2004 - At 7:50 PM, What were first reported to be tanks and now identified as Marine APCs showed up at an anti-war protest in front of the federal building in Westwood.

The APCs circled the block twice, the second time parking themselves in the street and directly in front of the area where most of the protesters were gathered.

full story and video here:
http://www.la.indymedia.org/
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Oh, my goodness. I already have three protest meetings to go to, and we are going to re-start our vigils at a local fountain on Saturday afternoons. I just hope the City of Birmingham doesn't feel the need to send cops to watch us. I also hope no one wastes their time counter-demonstrating, although quite frankly it wouldn't surprise me if someone did. I'm sorry, I think counter-demonstrating is silly and counterproductive. I don't like it that they sent the tanks out anywhere, just because there was a peaceful protest. If this is a sign of things to come there's going to be trouble.
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Oh, my goodness. I already have three protest meetings to go to, and we are going to re-start our vigils at a local fountain on Saturday afternoons.

be sure and get your shots and have your personal business in order.

sounds like you could be having an extended stay at GITMO.
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Gen. Tommy Franks is going to be speaking here on Saturday night and I was invited to protest, but I think I'll be busy. Even though I disagree with his position on the Iraq war I have a problem with protesting a great leader such as himself.

Edit: Make that military leader who has actually sacrificed for this country.
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Interesting. The LA Times has no report of this story.

Were the vehicles really involved with policing the protest? Were they there for some other purpose?

I'd be interested to see more facts on the situation.
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well those certainly aren't "tanks" but it is odd that they would be deployed for such a small, non-violent event. is there a military depot or something near by that perhaps they were just being transported from place to place and just ironicly ended up going past an anto-war protest? sounds like a stretch, i know... but thinking the military would send two armored vehicles out to quell a small protest that could easily be handled by the LAPD is also a bit of a stretch...

i'd like to see more facts on this.
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Oh, OK, if this was not even reported in the local newspapers I'll reserve judgment in the matter. I really don't expect to see cops or anyone else unusual at the vigil Saturday if I have the chance to go. Maybe some law enforcement was there to protect the protesters and the story got blown up into the tanks thing. Sometimes law enforcement officers are at demonstrations mainly to protect the demonstrators as counter-demonstrators can be nasty.
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A little digging around the internet tells me that there is a Army reserve depot a few blocks away and these vehicles were actually there for a Veteran's Day parade on Saturday.

I should also add that I saw nothing about this in the LA newspapers or on TV and if this WAS an attempt to harrass the demonstrators, the local media would have been all over it.
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yeah i would have seen it all over CNN if this were directed at the protesters......i can see why someone would think that though.
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Yes, I did some poking around too and read that while no one could figure out what they were doing there, that the guys in the APCs seemed "amused and not unfriendly." Still, even if they were nearby for a parade they shouldn't have been fucking with the protestors and pretending to intimidate.

You guys seem to trust the local and corporate-owned media a lot more than I do. I would never assume that something didn't happen just because it wasn't on CNN or in the LA Times.
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I don't doubt the existence of the APCs - it is evidenced by a photo (though, theoretically, that can be faked).

The "intimidation" of protestors is an editorial comment.
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I don't doubt the existence of the APCs - it is evidenced by a photo (though, theoretically, that can be faked).

The "intimidation" of protestors is an editorial comment.
I don't think the video could be faked.

It now seems like a prank.
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