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Old 07-19-2005, 08:04 PM   #1
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Morality vs. Ethics

What do you think of when you hear the words morality and ethics? Is the one religious, the second secular? Do you use them interchangeably? Or is morality an overcompassing view of your convictions and ethics the day to day practice of it? Or some entirely different perpective. I'm sure a helpful person will give me the dictionary definitions of them, but I have a dictionary. I'm more interested in how people use the words rather than how they are supposed to be used.

I got into a brief discussion in another thread which interested me. How the use of language is reflective of our thoughts and viewpoints and conversely how the use of language controls what we think, and why this culture war so often uses language as a tool.
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It may be my Catholic upbringing, but I prefer the term 'morality'.
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Morality is religious and not grounded on logic or reason, while ethics imply a set of universal rules to be employed in a secular and pluralistic society.

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To me, morality implies the concept of right vs. wrong, and ethics the practice of it in day to day life (professions, etc). When it all comes down to it though, they're really the same thing, both used and abused to the point of not having any real meaning anymore.
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Morality is religious and not grounded on logic or reason,
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i disagree


i have known too many moral atheists

one does not need any religion to have moral standards
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i have known too many moral atheists

one does not need any religion to have moral standards
You're correct, but atheist "morality" tends to be grounded more on secular humanist ethics. It's not bad. I think secular humanism is a great philosophy to be employed on a pluralist society.

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To me, morality implies the concept of right vs. wrong, and ethics the practice of it in day to day life (professions, etc). When it all comes down to it though, they're really the same thing, both used and abused to the point of not having any real meaning anymore.
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For me, moral values and ethical values are the same thing. Doesn´t make a difference what i use, when I say ethical I will mean moral and vice versa.
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Morality is religious and not grounded on logic or reason, while ethics imply a set of universal rules to be employed in a secular and pluralistic society.

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perfectly said.
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^ agree

I cringe when I hear the word morality because to me it implies avoiding "bad" and embracing "good" even though my most spiritual and enlightening experiences in life have come through what moralists would consider "bad' things. I respond well when I hear the word ethics.
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^ agree

I cringe when I hear the word morality because to me it implies avoiding "bad" and embracing "good" even though my most spiritual and enlightening experiences in life have come through what moralists would consider "bad' things. I respond well when I hear the word ethics.


agreed.

govern yourself with your morality. govern me, as a citizen, with ethics.
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Morality deals with society, ethics deals with profession.
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Perhaps there is good and bad beyond what we can decide day-to-day.

Perhaps there is good or bad that is always good and bad, not just subject to current rules.
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Perhaps there is good and bad beyond what we can decide day-to-day.

Perhaps there is good or bad that is always good and bad, not just subject to current rules.


like what?
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Old 07-20-2005, 09:22 AM   #15
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Perhaps there is good and bad beyond what we can decide day-to-day.

Perhaps there is good or bad that is always good and bad, not just subject to current rules.
Then we'd have to decide that to be so, hence completely contradicting the above.

Be glad we don't sacrifice children to Moloch anymore.

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