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Old 09-30-2006, 04:52 PM   #1
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Modern slavery?

I was thinking about buying U2 iPod, but I have changed my mind and won't touch these products.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14915
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It's being looked into:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index...e&NewsID=14935



This would probably fit better in FYM, no?
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This would probably fit better in FYM, no?
Yeah, I guess. Hide it as soon as possible!
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And yet their player is THE most expensive out there...wonder where the iPod-buyers' cash goes? Capitalist pigs

Not that many other businesses are any different I'm sure
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Not that many other businesses are any different I'm sure
I'm afraid you are right about that.

I wonder what Bono would think about this if he knew?
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Hide it as soon as possible!

No, just that the fact that U2 have an iPod doesn't necessarily make a story about iPods also about U2.
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I'm afraid you are right about that.

I wonder what Bono would think about this if he knew?
I do wonder what his reaction would be. Do you think he'd make a big issue of it, or maybe not since his first priority (politically) right now is the dire situation in Africa?
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I can bet that over half the things in your home are made by people living and working in these same exact conditions. There's only so much you can take on at a time.
There are people that earn far less, actually.
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I've been to a lot of these types of places in Asia, by local standards many, if not all, actually offer standards of living higher than they's have in their villages.

Not only is room/board included, but typically medical care and education too.

Oh, and how exactly do you think your computer/computer components were made ? Your t-shirts ? your non-ipod mp3 players ? etc.

I can't speak for the garment industry, but the high tech subcontractors do offer a better overall deal than many of these would otherwise have
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Wasn't there something with Nike too?
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Wasn't there something with Nike too?
Yes, with Air Jordan kicks (other styles too I'm sure)...I seem to recall some press went to MJ for comment and got nothing.

People love to spring the sweatshop stories on celebs who slap their name on products...their reactions make good copy but really don't mean a thing. But that stuff sells...

And as I said it's far from an Apple issue, it's a capitalism issue...if you're poor, you get a shit deal, wherever you happen to live & work. It's economics...money doesn't grow on trees, so if somebody's sitting on a pile of money while doing next to nothing, you can bet somebody else is working and getting screwed. Zero-sum baby.

And ya I think this probably fits better in FYM...
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I've been to a lot of these types of places in Asia, by local standards many, if not all, actually offer standards of living higher than they's have in their villages.
Is this supposed to make me feel any better? Somehow I don't feel any better.

They have rooms/accomodation onsite. You finish your shift, you eat & sleep just to start your next shift. Those people basically work to survive.
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Is this supposed to make me feel any better? Somehow I don't feel any better.

They have rooms/accomodation onsite. You finish your shift, you eat & sleep just to start your next shift. Those people basically work to survive.
bullshit. They are typically supporting families back home in their villages also. I don't care if you feel better about it, it's better than t-shirt makers, or coffee workers, etc will make.
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bullshit. They are typically supporting families back home in their villages also. I don't care if you feel better about it, it's better than t-shirt makers, or coffee workers, etc will make.
FSCK YOU! All I got to say.
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Hrrrm , this is gonna be locked now.

Why cant we debate without this language
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