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Old 02-01-2008, 03:45 PM   #1
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Mississippi wants you to slim down, or else not eat at all

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...01081fat1.html

Mississippi Pols Seek To Ban Fats
New bill would make it illegal for restaurants to serve the obese


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FEBRUARY 1--Mississippi legislators this week introduced a bill that would make it illegal for state-licensed restaurants to serve obese patrons. Bill No. 282, a copy of which you'll find below, is the brainchild of three members of the state's House of Representatives, Republicans W. T. Mayhall, Jr. and John Read, and Democrat Bobby Shows. The bill, which is likely dead on arrival, proposes that the state's Department of Health establish weight criteria after consultation with Mississippi's Council on Obesity. It does not detail what penalties an eatery would face if its grub was served to someone with an excessive body mass index.


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If that bill wasn't "likely dead on arrival," I wouldn't know what to think.
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How ridiculous! Yes, obesity is a problem, but what the Mississippi pols are suggesting is basically discrimination.
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Yeah only an MS politician would come up with something like that.

Well, Mississippi is neck-and-neck with West Virginia for highest obesity rates in the country (Colorado and Utah have the lowest rates, in case you're wondering--though even theirs are frighteningly high), so it is a critical public health problem there. It's a vicious circle--it's the poorest state in the country, and poverty is (in the US at least) strongly correlated with obesity, yet at the same time, that also means it's the least prepared to mount large-scale public health initiatives (not to mention cope with the surge in Type II diabetes, which is also epidemic there now).

Not the way to go about it though.
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Come on! I want my money's worth. When I eat out I generally take home enough food for my next three meals!
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Alabamas gotten me so upset
Tennessee made me lose my rest
And everybody knows about Mississippi goddamn
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Maybe if Mississippi was serious about people losing weight, the state would shorten its name. Set an example that less is more.

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'Tis no man, 'tis a remorseless eating machine. Arr..."
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Maybe Huckabee could make reading from his weight-loss book the centerpiece of his campaigning in Mississippi...if he's even going to campaign in Mississippi, that is.
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Yeah only an MS politician would come up with something like that.

Well, Mississippi is neck-and-neck with West Virginia for highest obesity rates in the country (Colorado and Utah have the lowest rates, in case you're wondering--though even theirs are frighteningly high), so it is a critical public health problem there. It's a vicious circle--it's the poorest state in the country, and poverty is (in the US at least) strongly correlated with obesity, yet at the same time, that also means it's the least prepared to mount large-scale public health initiatives (not to mention cope with the surge in Type II diabetes, which is also epidemic there now).

Not the way to go about it though.
The correlation is also seen in Germany, and a recent study has published figures that break the obesity rates down to social level and education, which again is correlated with each other.
So, if you are poor, you are very likely to get a shitty education, and become obese. The perspecitve to get out of that once you are in the cycle is decreasing.

Certainly an interesting approach, and very unique one, in Mississippi.
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It is true that crappy food is cheap.

But fruits and veggies are even cheaper, it's just that people don't want to be eating them when they can gobble up a box of mac 'n cheese with little effort.

I can only speak for myself. Anytime I got to size 8, I was bothered enough to go back to the gym 7 days a week. The average size in the US for women is something like a 12 or 14, dear God. But it just goes to show that government mandates are useless. You have to want to change your entire lifestyle and until that moment comes, you'll be obese.
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The correlation is also seen in Germany, and a recent study has published figures that break the obesity rates down to social level and education, which again is correlated with each other.
So, if you are poor, you are very likely to get a shitty education, and become obese. The perspecitve to get out of that once you are in the cycle is decreasing.

Certainly an interesting approach, and very unique one, in Mississippi.
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It's not just a question of poor food budgeting, though that's unquestionably part of it. MS is overwhelmingly rural, and an awful lot of Mississippians don't have easy access to a nice well-stocked Winn-Dixie or Kroger or other 'supermarket' (let alone a gym or health club). When my parents moved to the little town I grew up in back in '61, there were two tiny grocers (one for black people and one for white people, in those days) which sold pretty much only pantry staples (flour, oil, spices, sugar, bread, rice, beans), meat, milk, and eggs. Neither sold produce, except maybe potatoes and apples--it was just taken for grated that everyone grew their own. By the time I was growing up in the '70s and '80s, there was an obvious generational divide between people over fifty, who devoted every square inch of their backyard to vegetable gardening, and people under fifty, who didn't know how to garden or considered it too time-consuming. There still weren't (and still aren't) any supermarkets; if you had a car (which a lot of people there don't) then maybe you drove to the county seat a couple times a month to stock up at the supermarket or farmer's market, but otherwise you were limited to a handful of "mini-marts" selling an abbreviated range of what the former grocers used to stock--plus a LOT of 'convenience' foods and junk foods that wouldn't have been widely available at all before the '80s. (And a large array of alcoholic beverages and cigarettes, of course.) Combine that with the (related) declines in cooking skills and exercise--people aren't working in the fields anymore, they're sitting at a conveyor belt packaging catfish for export to other regions since the locals can no longer afford it--and you have a pretty good portrait of an unhealthy lifestyle. And like Vincent said, poor education (guess who also has the worst schools in the country?) only furthers the cycle.

Obviously there are also plenty of obese Mississippians who could easily afford to base their diets on produce and healthy staples from local supermarkets; I wouldn't want to exaggerate the effects of poor access. But it's one more example of how impoverishment hurts people's ability to take care of themselves.
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I think this is an interesting idea, not saying it's a great one but given the huge probably obesity presents, something needs to be done. If at some point, the US goes to a single payer universal health care system, then I think ideas like this will become more popular in order to keep taxes ands costs down.
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