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Old 01-15-2008, 04:55 PM   #61
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cuz ron paul is a few fries short of a happy meal
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Why are they going for Rudy? Isn't he even not considered conservative enough?
When I say "the GOP establishment" I mean the money people, the real "power brokers".

The reason they went for Giuliani as early as spring of 07 is because 1. they believed he could win 2. he would support their tax, regulation, and trade programs. 3. and he would pledge to appoint judicial appointments that have the same philosophy.
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When I say "the GOP establishment" I mean the money people, the real "power brokers".

the Wall Streeters -- the "fuck off, i got mine" or just FOIGM crowd -- who trick the evangelicals into thinking that voting for the Republicans will somehow please Jesus.
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the Wall Streeters -- the "fuck off, i got mine" or just FOIGM crowd -- who trick the evangelicals into thinking that voting for the Republicans will somehow please Jesus.
Rove knew if they could get 50%

they could take 100%.
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Romney wins.

doesn't look good for Mac.
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I'm surprised they're projecting that already, with only 10% reporting. It's just a 6-point lead.
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doesn't look good for Mac.
How so? You mean just tonight?

Down the road, McCain is still very, very strong. He's currently ahead in Nevada, is basically tied in SC with Huckabee, and he's moved past Giuliani in Florida. Romney, on the other hand, won't get "gold" or "silver" in either SC or Florida, and will not get another 1st place until Super Tuesday (if he even gets any there). I think McCain is still in fine shape.
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Yeah, I didn't think it would be that quick.

Super Tuesday is going to hold more importance this year, that's for sure. For both sides.
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How so? You mean just tonight?

Down the road, McCain is still very, very strong. He's currently ahead in Nevada, is basically tied in SC with Huckabee, and he's moved past Giuliani in Florida. Romney, on the other hand, won't get "gold" or "silver" in either SC or Florida, and will not get another 1st place until Super Tuesday (if he even gets any there). I think McCain is still in fine shape.

he's still got momentum, that's true. however, he won this state in 2000 against Bush. and it's a critical state for both parties, and he doesn't have Obama to compete against for the independents. they should, in theory, be flocking to him. so it's not good news.

what does make me feel good is that the next president will be either Obama, Hillary, or McCain. i can live with all three.
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Romney wins.

doesn't look good for Mac.
an appropiate diddy:

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I've just heard 2 times on CNN, once from Wolf Blitzer and once from this guest on Larry King that: "Ron Paul is ahead of both Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani, quite an embarassment for Thompson and Giuliani."

Why is that an embarassment??? Counting up by # of votes, Ron Paul comes ahead of both Giuliani and Thompson by adding up all the votes from Iowa, NH and Michigan. Maybe it is Giuliani who is the long shot.
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Its an unfortunate loss for McCain, but its hard to say how this is going to impact the race. Romney will get a bounce, for South Carolina, but ironically that bounce may hurt Huckabee in South Carolina and help John McCain. Romney has never led in the national polls at any point, and I doubt that after this race he is going to be in the lead and if he is it will probably be by a razor thin margin. Still the pressure is really on McCain now to win in South Carolina where independents and Democrats cannot vote in the Republican primary. McCain has the fact that a very large number of military families and retired military live in South Carolina and he has spent the past 8 years trying to court the vote in South Carolina after his loss there in 2000. The race has opened up again, but I think a McCain victory in South Carolina would definitely put him on top. But if McCain loses in South Carolina, his momentum that he had gained prior to New Hampshire and after New Hampshire could evaporate by the time Florida comes around. Romney still does not have strong appeal nationally among Republicans, but he definitely has the money to continue as long as he would like.
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Romney's win makes me
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