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Old 11-06-2004, 06:19 AM   #76
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There is more integrity here in the pinky of some of the posters in here than Michael Moore has, and that alone gives a majority of the posters in here the right to criticize Michael Moore.

Somehow assuming that it is republicans who are critical of him is kind of a silly thing to do. Somehow assuming the worst in anyone who associates themselves as being a republican seems like you are placing yourself on a seat of judgement that you have no business being on.

There are many on both sides of the aisle who do NOTHING to make the world a better place and it is not an issue of what political party people belong too.

Unfortunately, it appears we must all conform to some peoples cookie cut design of what an appropriate U2 Fan, or ADIS activist looks like.

That's a shame, since AIDS is bigger than a political party

Sadly though, some make others feel unwelcome in the battle.
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Michael Moore make entertaining film pieces... I thoroughly enjoyed Roger & Me as entertainment. However, you can't deny Moore brings the "hate" and criticism onto himself b/c of his tone and his confrontational attitude w/ his work.

Basically he's a troll with a bigger voice to say the things he does.
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Give me the money to get started and I will give it to the poor and make movies, much better than that windbag. I can't do a thing sitting here broke with 3 little kids.
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For all of you who live to criticize -

the day that you can win international film awards for your movies, let alone an Oscar
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when you can show me a lifetime of work standing up for the rights of the unemployed and the disenfranchised,

or, in simple terms,
when you can show me something that you have ACTUALLY DONE to make this world a better place (not just for Republicans)

THEN I will fathom that you have the credibility to criticize Michael Moore!

In other words, first talk to the man in the mirror.
If you want to live by this standard, please list your accomplishments that validate your own criticism in this forum.

Otherwise, stop being so judgmental of forum members and stick to the issues.
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There is more integrity here in the pinky of some of the posters in here than Michael Moore has, and that alone gives a majority of the posters in here the right to criticize Michael Moore.

Somehow assuming that it is republicans who are critical of him is kind of a silly thing to do. Somehow assuming the worst in anyone who associates themselves as being a republican seems like you are placing yourself on a seat of judgement that you have no business being on.

There are many on both sides of the aisle who do NOTHING to make the world a better place and it is not an issue of what political party people belong too.

Unfortunately, it appears we must all conform to some peoples cookie cut design of what an appropriate U2 Fan, or ADIS activist looks like.

That's a shame, since AIDS is bigger than a political party

Sadly though, some make others feel unwelcome in the battle.



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Old 11-06-2004, 04:37 PM   #81
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If one were to take such a point forward then one could craft this.
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For all of you who live to criticize -

the day that you can win elected office in Texas, let alone a Presidency
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when you can show me a lifetime of work standing up for the rights of all citizens of the United States,

or, in simple terms,
when you can show me something that you have ACTUALLY DONE to make this world a better place (not just for Democrats)

THEN I will fathom that you have the credibility to criticize George W. Bush!

In other words, first talk to the man in the mirror.
The point of free speech is that some wanker like Moore can go around and make a career out of lies, cheating and manipulation but others can call him on his bullshit, I suggest that you take some time to investigate Lumpy Riefenstahl's actions (for instance $30,000 speaking arrangements in his slacker uprising tour, creating the false impression that the animation in BFC was done by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, pretty much all the bullshit of F9/11 - good starting point could be www.moorewatch.com)
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Old 11-07-2004, 12:12 AM   #82
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michael moore thinks he know everything. silly man...
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He's trying to look at the bright side. Since there isn't much of a bright side yeah, it was a stretch.
When life gives you lemons, drink lemonade. This is Moore's recovery-from-the-blahs strategy. If you're confronted with a situation that you're not sure if you should laugh or cry, better to laugh.
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Michael Moore has proven over the past year that anger and fear do not win elections. If anything, his lies and propaganda sealed the election for Bush.

Keep it up big guy, and the Republicans will NEVER be out of power.
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I remember right after Bush Sr. was elected in 1988 Lee Atwater claimed that the Republicans were going to stay in power forever. Four years later (after his untimely death) they lost. It's always dangerous to try to predict four years in advance. The Democratic Party has some new stars like John Edwards and Wesley Clark. They're neophytes now, perhaps, but just wait.
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If the DNC can re-think its message, it can retake power. Protests, anger, etc. can only drum up so much support. And the message should be framed so most everyone can buy into it. This last round, we got the "if you don't buy our platform, you must be unsophisticated" message. Lose the "Retro/Metro" mentality. Go for the heart.
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If you want to live by this standard, please list your accomplishments that validate your own criticism in this forum.

Otherwise, stop being so judgmental of forum members and stick to the issues.
Thank you!
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I agree, nbcrusader. We need to love the candidate, not hate his opponent. That didn't happen this year. That was another problem we had this year, IMHO.
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If you want to live by this standard, please list your accomplishments that validate your own criticism in this forum.

Otherwise, stop being so judgmental of forum members and stick to the issues.
zing!

ben AFFLECK has an OSCAR... so much for THAT arguement.

i've done hours of community service, donated to numerous charities, etc. etc. etc. i don't need to brag about this, so i don't need to list exactly what I have done to make this world a better place. I know it in my HEART.

michael moore is a POOPIE head.
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