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Old 11-05-2004, 09:25 AM   #16
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two questions...

1. Will Fahrenheit 911 win the oscar for best picture?

2. Will Michael Moore continue to be embraced by the democratic party?
let's hope not... to both of those questions.

if he continues to be embraced, then the democratic leadership just doesn't get it.
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Old 11-05-2004, 09:28 AM   #17
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i enjoyed bowling for columbine, but his success with that film went to his head. he's become the left-wing version of bush, ranting and misrepresenting all over the place.
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Michael Moore is sooooooooo 2003.

It's all about Jon Stewart now.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:28 AM   #19
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Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.
But it's not against the law for Jeb Bush to run for President

Now that us Christians/Catholics have been mobilized, as shown by Bush getting more votes than any President in history, we will continue to put these family-values leaders and pioneers into office.

You can be with us or against us, but you had better believe one thing : Christians are done sitting at the back of the bus.
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But it's not against the law for Jeb Bush to run for President

Now that us Christians/Catholics have been mobilized, as shown by Bush getting more votes than any President in history, we will continue to put these family-values leaders and pioneers into office.

You can be with us or against us, but you had better believe one thing : Christians are done sitting at the back of the bus.
I agree. It's a new day for Christians. We do indeed feel new power out of this all over the country, and in every state.
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I have a real problem with these so-called "family-values leaders." Specifically because they treat gays as if they're not part of American families. Don't let them marry, don't let them have civil unions...well guess what. Gays aren't some separatist movement - they are part of American families all around. They are brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, and in some cases moms and dads - and guess what, the more you ostracize them, the more damage you are doing to "family-values" because they ARE family.
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I have a real problem with these so-called "family-values leaders." Specifically because they treat gays as if they're not part of American families. Don't let them marry, don't let them have civil unions...well guess what. Gays aren't some separatist movement - they are part of American families all around. They are brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, and in some cases moms and dads - and guess what, the more you ostracize them, the more damage you are doing to "family-values" because they ARE family.
Yep. They are a family.
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They aren't just A family. They're part of OUR families.
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I have a real problem with these so-called "family-values leaders." Specifically because they treat gays as if they're not part of American families. Don't let them marry, don't let them have civil unions...well guess what. Gays aren't some separatist movement - they are part of American families all around. They are brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, and in some cases moms and dads - and guess what, the more you ostracize them, the more damage you are doing to "family-values" because they ARE family.
well said, diemen.
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Yep, they often are.
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Old 11-05-2004, 11:32 AM   #26
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But it's not against the law for Jeb Bush to run for President

Now that us Christians/Catholics have been mobilized, as shown by Bush getting more votes than any President in history, we will continue to put these family-values leaders and pioneers into office.

You can be with us or against us, but you had better believe one thing : Christians are done sitting at the back of the bus.
Rest assured that there's a large percentage of folks out there looking forward to making sure that the next four years are as frustrating as they can be for this newly "mobilized" group.

And by the way, Christians don't know what sitting at the back of the bus means.

That's a flippant and damned insulting analogy to use.
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Michael Moore is sooooooooo 2003.

It's all about Jon Stewart now.




while Michael Moore remains a dazzlingly talented filmmaker -- i say this as a fellow filmmaker -- the future is with Jon Stewart. the smartest man on TV who put that Connecticut preppy white boy -- i say this as a former preppy born in CT and white -- Tucker Carlson in his place.

there's no coincidence that your average Daily Show viewer knows more about politics and history than your average Fox viewer, even if the DS viewer is stoned more often than not.
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You can be with us or against us, but you had better believe one thing : Christians are done sitting at the back of the bus.

yes, you people are just SO oppressed! no one listens to you!

oh, wait, you control the country and have since 1776.

try being NOT christian, or try being a christian who lives morally but doesn't seek to impose his worldview on others, and then see how you feel.

instead of the back of the bus, you might feel as if you're under the bus, which is where i feel right now.
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yes, you people are just SO oppressed! no one listens to you!

oh, wait, you control the country and have since 1776.

try being NOT christian, or try being a christian who lives morally but doesn't seek to impose his worldview on others, and then see how you feel.

instead of the back of the bus, you might feel as if you're under the bus, which is where i feel right now.
While most of the country finds some place for faith in their lives, I think it is evident that a number of large media outlets evince a secular worldview.
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While most of the country finds some place for faith in their lives, I think it is evident that a number of large media outlets evince a secular worldview.

yes because not everyone is christian, not everyone believes in God, and not everyone wants to have a theocratic worldview shoved down their throat especially by news and newspapers which must rightly deal with evidence, fact, and reason as opposed to subjective beliefs and worldviews that cannot and do not apply to everyone. there must be a division between the religious and the secular, modern society is based upon this division.
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