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Old 09-03-2005, 06:42 AM   #241
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You can never laugh at a time like this but I find it incredible that someone there could still have a sense of humor. Maybe that's all that keeps us going sometimes when all else is lost, that and the other aspects of the human spirit that somehow survive.

well I assumed this guy was joking but maybe not


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Old 09-03-2005, 07:26 AM   #242
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ironically, my friend and i were flipping through a back issue (november 2004) of national geographic the weekend before the hurricane formed and found this article. my friend thought it was real and was wondering when this had happened, realized it hadn't happened, and then it actually did. the next weekend.

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It was a broiling August afternoon in New Orleans, Louisiana, the Big Easy, the City That Care Forgot. Those who ventured outside moved as if they were swimming in tupelo honey. Those inside paid silent homage to the man who invented air-conditioning as they watched TV "storm teams" warn of a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. Nothing surprising there: Hurricanes in August are as much a part of life in this town as hangovers on Ash Wednesday.

But the next day the storm gathered steam and drew a bead on the city. As the whirling maelstrom approached the coast, more than a million people evacuated to higher ground. Some 200,000 remained, however—the car-less, the homeless, the aged and infirm, and those die-hard New Orleanians who look for any excuse to throw a party.

The storm hit Breton Sound with the fury of a nuclear warhead, pushing a deadly storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain. The water crept to the top of the massive berm that holds back the lake and then spilled over. Nearly 80 percent of New Orleans lies below sea level—more than eight feet below in places—so the water poured in. A liquid brown wall washed over the brick ranch homes of Gentilly, over the clapboard houses of the Ninth Ward, over the white-columned porches of the Garden District, until it raced through the bars and strip joints on Bourbon Street like the pale rider of the Apocalypse. As it reached 25 feet (eight meters) over parts of the city, people climbed onto roofs to escape it.

Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States.

When did this calamity happen? It hasn't—yet. But the doomsday scenario is not far-fetched. The Federal Emergency Management Agency lists a hurricane strike on New Orleans as one of the most dire threats to the nation, up there with a large earthquake in California or a terrorist attack on New York City. Even the Red Cross no longer opens hurricane shelters in the city, claiming the risk to its workers is too great.
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FYI

Two aircraft carrier and an armory ship left Norfolk Va on Thurs. for the gulf. The Armory is loaded with helicopters.

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So glad you are OK. And for once I love CNN again.
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Maybe this is a stupid question and idea but I was wondering about the U.S. aircraft carriers.. I mean if all NO is flooded and a carrier located in the Gulf would just go near there and stop near NO so they can take rescue boats and quickly get the people out of the Superdome and onto the carrier where some doctors are waiting? Or is that just a stupid idea because it wouldn´t work for a couple of reasons -but why shouldnt it have worked this way, just to get a couple of thousands out quick and easy?

In addition to the aircraft carriers headed to the area, 4 Navy warships are in route from Virginia, including the floating EVAC Hospital Comfort.

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Old 09-03-2005, 09:40 AM   #245
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eerie.
wow, that is..that song Louisiana is too


Murder and mayhem in New Orleans' miserable shelter

By Mark Egan

With the rotors of President George W. Bush's helicopter sounding overhead, New Orleans' poor and downtrodden recounted tales of murder, rape, death threats and near starvation since Hurricane Katrina wrecked this city.

Ending days of abandonment since the hurricane struck on Monday, the U.S. National Guard handed out military rations and a bottle of water to thousands of evacuees -- the first proper meal most had eaten in days.

But as the masses lined up outside, herded by Army troops toting machine guns, inside the convention center where these people slept since Monday was the stench of death and decay.

Leroy Fouchea, 42, waited in the sweltering heat for an hour to get his ration -- his first proper food since Monday -- and immediately handed it over to a sickly friend.

He then offered to show reporters the dead bodies of a man in a wheelchair, a young man who he said he dragged inside just hours earlier, and the limp forms of two infants, one just four months old, the other six months old.

"They died right here, in America, waiting for food," Fouchea said as he walked toward Hall D, where the bodies were put to get them out of the searing heat.

He said people were let die and left without food simply because they were poor and that the evacuation effort earlier concentrated on the French Quarter of the city. "Because that's where the money is," he spat.

A National Guardsman refused entry.

"It doesn't need to be seen, it's a make-shift morgue in there," he told a Reuters photographer. "We're not letting anyone in there anymore. If you want to take pictures of dead bodies, go to Iraq."

As rations were finally doled out here on the day President Bush visited the devastated city, an elderly white woman and her husband collapsed from the heat.

"I had to walk two blocks to get here and I have arthritis and three ruptured discs in my back," said Selma Valenti, 80, as her husband lay beside her, being revived by a policeman in riot gear. The two had eaten nothing since Wednesday.

Valenti and her husband, two of very few white people in the almost exclusively black refugee camp, said she and other whites were threatened with murder on Thursday.

"They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses were going to come last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to kill us," she said, sobbing. "They were plotting to murder us and then they sent the buses away because we would all be killed if the buses came -- that's what the people in charge told us this morning."

Other survivors recounted horrific cases of sexual assault and murder.

Sitting with her daughter and other relatives, Trolkyn Joseph, 37, said men had wandered the cavernous convention center in recent nights raping and murdering children.

She said she found a dead 14-year old girl at 5 a.m. on Friday morning, four hours after the young girl went missing from her parents inside the convention center.

"She was raped for four hours until she was dead," Joseph said through tears. "Another child, a seven-year old boy was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last night."

Several others interviewed by Reuters told similar stories of the abuse and murder of children, but they could not be independently verified.

Many complained bitterly about why they received so little for so many days, and they had harsh words for Bush.

"I really don't know what to say about President Bush," said Richard Dunbar, 60, a Vietnam veteran. "He showed no lack of haste when he wanted to go to Iraq, but for his own people right here in Louisiana, we get only lip service."

One young man said he was not looking forward to another night in the convention center and wondered when conditions would improve. "It's been like a jail in there," he said. "We've got murderers, rapists, killers, thieves. We've got it all."
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Yeah, someone shared that article at another board, too, dandy-really creepy, huh?

Also...

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Leroy Fouchea, 42, waited in the sweltering heat for an hour to get his ration -- his first proper food since Monday -- and immediately handed it over to a sickly friend.
First off, bless that man .

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"They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses were going to come last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to kill us," she said, sobbing. "They were plotting to murder us and then they sent the buses away because we would all be killed if the buses came -- that's what the people in charge told us this morning."


She said she found a dead 14-year old girl at 5 a.m. on Friday morning, four hours after the young girl went missing from her parents inside the convention center.

"She was raped for four hours until she was dead," Joseph said through tears. "Another child, a seven-year old boy was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last night."
I apologize if I've been swearing a bit too much lately, but...fucking hell...

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Old 09-03-2005, 10:55 AM   #247
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I'd like to know why Doctors Without Borders isn't in New Orleans, or anywhere in the south. The conditions and needs there are no different from that of a third world country, and whenever there's a crisis in places like that, DWB is there in an instant. How come they haven't come to the US? Is it because they can't believe this is happening to the world's richest country?
Well, its not an excuse. Its website hasn't mentioned the hurricane at all. I'm disappointed, especially since I usually donate to DWB.
I've been wondering the same thing. This is really the only disaster relief organization I really trust.

Someone I know in NO has been listed as missing by her family and friends, and I met two refugees yesterday here in NM. They were having coffee at Starbucks, looking rather peaceful in that way that I think shock can do, and wondering where they'd like to live next.
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:54 PM   #248
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ironically, my friend and i were flipping through a back issue (november 2004) of national geographic the weekend before the hurricane formed and found this article. my friend thought it was real and was wondering when this had happened, realized it hadn't happened, and then it actually did. the next weekend.



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eerie.


That is indeed spooky.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:49 PM   #249
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All I can say is thank God, He has blessed me. I just got online within the past hour. I didn't lose anything or anyone. I spent four days without power, but what the helll, that's transient and a thing of the past. I really feel for the people of the Coast area, I'm so sorry they had to deal with this st. I haven't gotten that much news, I'm going to check on disaster relief.
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We really are glad to have all Interferencers who were in that area back here safe and sound . That's another thing to put in the "Counting our blessings" thread.

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All I can say is thank God, He has blessed me. I just got online within the past hour. I didn't lose anything or anyone. I spent four days without power, but what the helll, that's transient and a thing of the past. I really feel for the people of the Coast area, I'm so sorry they had to deal with this st. I haven't gotten that much news, I'm going to check on disaster relief.
I know what you mean . We were without power for about 4 days last year with the storms, but we were so lucky.
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Doctors Without Borders is a good point but like much of the foreign aid to the US, I think they have to be invited in by the country -- they can't come without an invite.

As for the aircraft carrier, it sounds like the US has also chartered three Carnival Cruise ships to house people for six months. Don't know where they are docking though.
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That's probably the case, but I would just like to see DWB acknowledge the crises somehow. Its still not mentioned on its website.
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I really don't feel like watching television news. I've been a part of it, yes, a peripheral part to say the least, but I'm getting enough horror stories from the Internet.
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This is kind of irrelevant, and obviously there are a handful of plain old sicko-rapists...but I've read some stuff on the effects of dehydration, and one of them is paranoia. There are tons of cases of people "shooting at helicopters" and generally trying to hurt their rescuers and others after they've gone 2 or 3 days without water. I'm not sure what the situation is with some of these shelters, ie how quickly they received fresh water if at all, but I thought I'd mention that.

Apparently we have some kids from NO coming to our school temporarily starting Tues. We're also giving part of our homecoming ticket sales to the Red Cross, should equal about $25,000.
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