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Old 09-02-2005, 05:55 PM   #211
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I suppose it's possible that Ritz Carlton flew them out? Sorry that I missed part of that report.
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Old 09-02-2005, 05:58 PM   #212
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I'd like to know why Doctors Without Borders isn't in New Orleans, or anywhere in the south. The conditions and needs there are no different from that of a third world country, and whenever there's a crisis in places like that, DWB is there in an instant. How come they haven't come to the US? Is it because they can't believe this is happening to the world's richest country?
Well, its not an excuse. Its website hasn't mentioned the hurricane at all. I'm disappointed, especially since I usually donate to DWB.
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I heard the report about the people at the Ritz--she said that 18 buses turned up, instead of the 8 she was told would turn up...and that they had armed guards.
Um, watching the concert/telethon. Don't know who the guy was with Mike Myers, but he was PISSED! He sort of went off on a tangent about how black people were being treated in NO, being shot at, etc....and then Mike read his bit from the teleprompters...and then the guy said "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Um, they cut away instantly to Chris Tucker backstage near a fridge or something. Does anyone know who that was?
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:00 PM   #214
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PPS. Fats Domino was in the Superdome?!?! I sure hope they got him the heck out. To add to the list of scandals....didn[t he have a way to leave?!?!? Maybe he stayed behind for the artistic inspiration. I doubt that. But if any artist didm, I think they got enough to produce another The Scream.

And DAve C.. that Mogadishu comment...I think you said much more than you think there, my friend. All today how it;s been on my mind how those people trapped in the Superdome etc, are thinking, "Africa, again, here. It never changes..."

About BWB...maybe it's a little of both. Bit somany other countries have pledged aid....just now hearning about the hospital ships on the way. Funny, we can get them to other coutries faster, they should have been on route by Wed night. Better, they should have been routed to NO on Saturday, just in case....
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:04 PM   #215
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Fats Domino may have refused preferential treatment. He will be interesting to listen to after the recovery gets underway.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:18 PM   #216
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I heard the report about the people at the Ritz--she said that 18 buses turned up, instead of the 8 she was told would turn up...and that they had armed guards.
Um, watching the concert/telethon. Don't know who the guy was with Mike Myers, but he was PISSED! He sort of went off on a tangent about how black people were being treated in NO, being shot at, etc....and then Mike read his bit from the teleprompters...and then the guy said "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Um, they cut away instantly to Chris Tucker backstage near a fridge or something. Does anyone know who that was?
I didn't see it, but my sister said it was Kanye West.
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Canadian warships to sail to Louisiana
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Three Canadian warships, a coast guard vessel and three Sea King helicoptors will be sent to Louisiana on Tuesday with relief supplies for the U.S. Gulf Coast.

Defence Minister Bill Graham made the announcement from Moscow, Russia.

The Canadian Coast Guard Ship Sir William Alexander will sail along with the Canadian Navy vessels, HMCS Athabaskan, HMCS Ville De Quebec and HMCS Toronto.

Naval crews were busy loading gear on to the ships in Halifax Friday as 1,000 personnel prepared to head to waters off New Orleans.

Commodore Dean McFadden, who will command the deployment, said they were consulting with their American counterparts to determine what they will do during the expected month-long mission. He suggested duties would involve reconstruction, health care and humanitarian aid.

"We will have the capacity to move people. We'll have the capacity to bring medical supplies and fuel capabilities," McFadden said as he stood on the dock next to destroyer HMCS Athabaskan, the command and control ship for the mission. "The specific jobs we're going to do, I'll wait until the Americans tell us what help they need."

The vessels will work with the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard and carry Canadian Forces personnel, some of them military engineers who might be able to help restore power and generate electricity.

About 40 navy divers from both coasts were also expected to deploy with the mission, which got clearance after American officials accepted a Canadian offer of help.

Rear Admiral Dan McNeil of the Joint Task Force Atlantic said organizers of the mission, dubbed Operation Union, were compiling a list of what's needed as U.S. officials continued to assess their requirements.

The ships are expected to arrive in the Gulf of Mexico three to four days after they leave Halifax.


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Old 09-02-2005, 06:26 PM   #218
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You know, in a week the media will be filled with these heartwarming images of ships, food, supplies, daring rescues etc. How many will remember the first week of hell. And the poor mayor who led it all and cried out for help. He was the only leader..he and that general.

I hate to say it, but he is black himself, and a Democrat. Will he be knighted and lauded the same way white Republican Guliani was? He is just as much of a hero as Guliani. But Bush doesn't like black people, esp of the other party, and the Iraq comment will not help. Bush will not foget. In his interview this afternoon, he said, "I will not forget.." or something like that. Sad.
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I have never seen the US media so confrontational with the bullshit coming out of the politicians mouths until now.
No kidding. It's kinda...refreshing. And interesting.

This whole thing is interesting. True colors of many people are being displayed now, which, depending on your view, can be good or bad. Me, I'm seeing a lot of disturbing colors being shown. I don't doubt there's good colors, too, but they're not getting nearly the press. I just see shootings and rapes and apathetic people and stress and fighting and blame and desperation.

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Good for them, people are sick and tired of politicians and bureaucrats dodging questions and spinning their answers.
Mmhm. If I were a politician, I'd be a smidge on the worried side right about now.

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Most of these politicians have no idea as to the horrors being experienced by the victims.
Course not, they've likely never had to go through that kind of thing before. They're comfortable, so they don't understand this. Or something along those lines.

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Just read all this thread so far...the storm surge in MI,about 30 ft?!?!? Whole towns wiped out...one town of 7000 wiped off the map....who knows if they evacuated??/They haven't even BEGUN to count a death toll.
Good god... A town of 7,000 completely gone.

My town has 30 some thousand people in it. I'm trying to imagine our town getting something strong enough to wipe it clear off the map for good.

*Shudders*

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Old 09-02-2005, 06:30 PM   #220
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Canadian warships to sail to Louisiana
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Three Canadian warships, a coast guard vessel and three Sea King helicoptors will be sent to Louisiana on Tuesday with relief supplies for the U.S. Gulf Coast.

Defence Minister Bill Graham made the announcement from Moscow, Russia.

The Canadian Coast Guard Ship Sir William Alexander will sail along with the Canadian Navy vessels, HMCS Athabaskan, HMCS Ville De Quebec and HMCS Toronto.

Naval crews were busy loading gear on to the ships in Halifax Friday as 1,000 personnel prepared to head to waters off New Orleans.

Commodore Dean McFadden, who will command the deployment, said they were consulting with their American counterparts to determine what they will do during the expected month-long mission. He suggested duties would involve reconstruction, health care and humanitarian aid.

"We will have the capacity to move people. We'll have the capacity to bring medical supplies and fuel capabilities," McFadden said as he stood on the dock next to destroyer HMCS Athabaskan, the command and control ship for the mission. "The specific jobs we're going to do, I'll wait until the Americans tell us what help they need."

The vessels will work with the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard and carry Canadian Forces personnel, some of them military engineers who might be able to help restore power and generate electricity.

About 40 navy divers from both coasts were also expected to deploy with the mission, which got clearance after American officials accepted a Canadian offer of help.

Rear Admiral Dan McNeil of the Joint Task Force Atlantic said organizers of the mission, dubbed Operation Union, were compiling a list of what's needed as U.S. officials continued to assess their requirements.

The ships are expected to arrive in the Gulf of Mexico three to four days after they leave Halifax.


Canucks are on the way.

Yay for Canada!



BIG for Canada.

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Old 09-02-2005, 06:30 PM   #221
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Teta40, that is good observation regarding limiting driving during this Labour Day Weekend. Actually, come to think of it, this disaster has directly affected over a million US citizens, an entire city is being evacuated and abandoned, hundreds of thousands of people have lost their homes, jobs, livelihoods, belongings, yet there seemed to be a much bigger reaction and effort to sacrifice for 9/11 than to this which IMO is way more devastating to your country. I guess 9/11 was more psychologically damaging than this disaster.

Regarding the Doctors Without Borders Pearl, I would think they already have their hands full with the over 1 BILLION people whose everyday existence is similar to the tragedy ongoing on the Gulf Coast during as a result of the hurricane.


Kudos to CNN and other networks for letting some people use their networks as a method of attempting to contact loved ones. Some of these stories are just heartwrenching.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:37 PM   #222
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I'm wondering if Doctors Without Borders don't have the established infrastructure in the US that, say, the Red Cross has.

Not that it seems like there's much established infrastructure for disaster response to speak of from anyone at the moment ...
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Regarding the Doctors Without Borders Pearl, I would think they already have their hands full with the over 1 BILLION people whose everyday existence is similar to the tragedy ongoing on the Gulf Coast during as a result of the hurricane.[/B]
But I would think they would help out anyway considering the desperation that's happening. And they say they respond to crises from natural disasters.
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