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Old 10-30-2004, 03:01 PM   #16
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If the US Presidential, is super close, will either party accept it?

Election 2000 left a bitter taste in my mouth. It was super close. IMO, after 4 years and research that was done by the media and other think tanks, Bush IMO won the election. Think tanks and the media have said that nearly every type of count would have indicated the Bush won Florida. Thats in the past. IMO, the Florida fiasco hurt the executive branch and the US to some degree. However thats all fine and dandy.

We have a new election that from all indications could be close if not even way closer than the last election. The swing states appear to be the deciding factor. If Bush or Kerry won the election by a close margin with several swing states showing ties (the candidate wins the state by a really close margin e.g couple hundred to a few thousand votes), do you believe the losing candidate (maybe your candidate) should demand recounts in all those really close states or sue for recounts (some states by law maybe might not allow for a recount)?

IMO if the race is super close like that, I believe the losing candidate should just concede and accept the final results IMO, even if the above possibilty happens. What does everyone else think?

An article mentions, "Richard Nixon would have captured the 1960 presidential election but for five states he lost by 5,000 votes or fewer – Missouri, Illinois, Nevada, New Mexico and Hawaii. Gerald Ford would have retained the presidency in 1976 but for two states he lost by no more than 5,600 votes – Ohio and Hawaii.

Though the 1960 and 1976 elections were close, though they turned on a few thousand votes in a handful of states, the outcomes were faithfully accepted by the American people, by Republicans and Democrats alike."


Both candidates should take a cue from Nixon and Ford IMO. However I have a feeling that won't be the case.
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Merged FuManchu's "close election" thread with this one.
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Another update...

This thread is sort of the randoomdumdumdum for the election-minded--you can post thoughts, reactions, comments, whatever (in accordance with our nice policies, LOL). The other "stuck" thread (DaveC's "play-by-play" thread) is for NEWS ONLY (exit polling, voting day incidents, what have you) for those of you who work during the day and want to use FYM for continuous updates (like, if you can't get your CNN fix at work). That way you don't have to slag through jokes, mental riffs, etc.

I think this will work okay. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Old 10-30-2004, 03:22 PM   #19
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woo i convinced my brother in law's texas republican dad to vote for kerry! he already has voted!
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We have hundreds of scientists working at the institute. The Americans (grad students or post-docs) who are in labs on our floor have all voted, and not a single one for Bush. Yeehaw!
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We have hundreds of scientists working at the institute. The Americans (grad students or post-docs) who are in labs on our floor have all voted, and not a single one for Bush. Yeehaw!
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say what you want about tucker carlson (i.e. a 'dick') but he predicts a kerry victory. i hope he's right.
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We are into Osamarama double time now.
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I gotta love my grandma. She's 80 yrs old, and lives in a rural pocket of central NY State that is solidly Republican. Every Election season she recives a visit at her house from a nice little old lady from the local Rep National Committee office giving her a friendly heads up, alittle teatime social call, on how to vote. She always tells her that she will vote for the Rep. candidate, she's a registered Republican--I guess you have to be if everyone else in toen is--but she ALWAYS votes Democratic anyway!I wish u2sermos.com could post a listing of sermons from chruches nationswide from tomorrow morning.

Should be some INTERESTING sermons.

Then again, judging Bush's social agenda vis a vis the seperation of chruch and state, maybe not.
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Look out, I smell a CBS exclusive from these genuine documents that I dug up from my special source.

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From: binny@toraboradeathcave.com
Date: Thurs October 28, 2004
To: karl@satan.net
Subject: new videotaping we have

Yo, Rovemeister!

Is Osama here. How you do? Hope all is well with campaign for evil, etc. (How about that John Kerry wife - the crazy one. Two burkas for her at least! Kerry, he was surely wearing the fermented hummous goggles when they wed!)

Anyways, maybe can help campaign with new video, featuring me in star role. See attachmented clip below.

Yours in happiness,

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From: karl@satan.net
Date: Thurs October 28, 2004
To: binny@toraboradeathcave.com
Subject: re: new videotaping we have

Osama, you old dog!

By all means, please release this video ASAP. And, as we’ve previously discussed, for every percentage point we gain in the swing states we’ll send you another kidney we’ve harvested from murdered Democrats in Florida.

Best wishes,

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Poll Date Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards Nader/Camejo Spread
RCP Average 10/25-10/30 48.1% 46.0% 1.0% Bush +2.1
ARG (1258 LV) 10/28 - 10/30 48% 48% 1% TIE
FOX News (1200 LV) 10/28 - 10/29 47% 45% 1% Bush +2
Newsweek (882 LV) 10/27 - 10/29 50% 44% 1% Bush +6
Reuters/Zogby (1203 LV) 10/27 - 10/29 46% 47% 2% Kerry +1
ABC/Wash Post (2047 LV)* 10/26 - 10/29 49% 48% 0% Bush +1
TIPP (792 LV) 10/26 - 10/29 46% 44% 2% Bush +2
GW/Battleground (1000 LV) 10/25 - 10/28 51% 46% 0% Bush +5
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