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Old 01-06-2008, 04:38 PM   #211
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Melon meant that as an absolute.

Whether it or not it was meant as an absolute is besides the point. It's stereotypical assumption and it needs to be nailed.
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Whether it or not it was meant as an absolute is besides the point. It's stereotypical assumption and it needs to be nailed.
You found one supporter who isn't a straight white guy.


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This thread has gotten hilarious...
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:50 PM   #214
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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12102

The writer is (a) openly gay
(b) hispanic
Justin Raimondo is also a paleolibertarian. He supported Pat Buchanan in the 1992, 1996 and 2000 campaigns.

Raimondo is also anti-war to the point of lunacy, as he has claimed that the U.S. provoked Japan into war in WWII and claims that "Israeli intelligence" had prior knowledge of 9/11 (ah, yes, when in doubt, blame "the Jews").

For your own sake, I wouldn't be parading Raimondo around as an example of a "good" Ron Paul supporter.
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You found one supporter who isn't a straight white guy.


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Yet again, you're utterly and completely wrong, Martha.

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008...americans.html
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For your own sake, I wouldn't be parading Raimondo around as an example of a "good" Ron Paul supporter.



Is that supposed to be some sort of threat?
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Is that supposed to be some sort of threat?
Not at all. I'm saying that Raimondo furthers my contention that Paul is a reactionary ideologue, rather than his carefully cultivated image as a "maverick."

No threats intended.
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Not at all. I'm saying that Raimondo furthers my contention that Paul is a reactionary ideologue, rather than his carefully cultivated image as a "maverick."

No threats intended.
Right. I now understand, but do not necessarily agree with your point.
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Right. I now understand, but do not necessarily agree with your point.
That's okay. I respect that we disagree on Ron Paul here.
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Yet again, you're utterly and completely wrong, Martha.

You're right. I'm so wrong. All the time. It must be tough being me.



Fine, so the dude has supporters among black Republicans. So?

What are other stats? Dig some up that show how wide a spectrum Ronster really has among his supporters. I'm not the one who made the assertion anyway. But it's easier to go after me isn't it?
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What are other stats? Dig some up that show how wide a spectrum Ronster really has among his supporters.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/2008-...y-support.html
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Nice. Now that's what I'm talking about. Stats.
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Although, I'm a bit skeptical as to what exactly they show. That post was cut-and-pasted from The Jones Report, which is owned by Ron Paul supporter Alex Jones (also of Prison Planet and Infowars), whose media company Jones Productions commissioned the Zogby poll (meaning, they own the rights to it and were able to specify its design). If you follow the provided link to Zogby's site, which the post claims has the data it's quoting from, you'll see that in fact it doesn't--all it contains is a link to Jones Productions'/Zogby's poll of 389 Republican primary voters, which had completely different findings, and one brief mention of (but no link to) the much larger nationwide poll: "The blind bio question was also posed to a larger pool of 1009 likely voters nationwide, including Democrats and independents, and Paul was the big winner among that universe of voters, winning 33%, compared to 19% for Giuliani, 15% for Romney, and 13% for Thompson." Note that this Zogby poll was a blind bio (meaning respondents didn't know the actual identities of who they were supporting, but rather made their evaluations based on selective brief bios, presumably composed by Jones Productions) and also that no Democratic nominees' bios (which might have affected independents' and Democrats' responses) were included.

I also find it strange that, so far as I can tell at least, none of Jones' websites provides the actual full poll results despite that being his privilege as its commissioner, though that's neither here nor there I guess.
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Perhaps its no wonder that the only people who seem to support him are straight white men.
I'm not white and I have a lot of friends who are not white who support Paul.
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