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Old 04-16-2007, 01:11 PM   #61
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by the way, thanks for the kind words everybody. i'll keep posting the updates as i receive them.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:23 PM   #63
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:28 PM   #64
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this is now being called the deadliest campus shooting in US history
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:28 PM   #65
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This is so horrible
Mia & everyone involved
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Seems a lot of the students in lockdown are e-mailing the BBC..they sound very terrified
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:30 PM   #67
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:35 PM   #68
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Massacre at Virginia Tech: 25 Confirmed Dead
Fatalities Expected to Rise; Suspected Gunman Among the Dead

Apr. 16, 2007— - At least 25 people are dead in what may be the biggest mass killing on a college campus in American history -- and the death toll may rise.

Police at Virginia Tech say that the shootings happened at a dormitory and a classroom on opposite sides of the university campus in Blacksburg, Va.

Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said that one person was killed in the first shooting, just after 7 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a large dormitory. Flinchum said that at least 20 more people were killed in a later shooting at Norris Hall, an academic building.

Flinchum said the gunman was dead, but wouldn't say whether the shooter killed himself. The gunman, whose identity has not been released, is among the dead.

ABC News confirms that there were two separate bomb threats at Virginia Tech that targeted engineering buildings. The first was directed at Torgersen Hall, while the second was directed at multiple engineering buildings. Students and staff were evacuated, and the university had offered a $5000 reward for information into the threats.

Not all of the students involved in the shootings are dead. Two local hospitals are reporting treating 21 people.

University president Charles Steger said that police have not officially tied together the two shootings.


It is 10:30 am west coast time

1:30 pm VA time


Most likely in the next 24- 48 hours
most of the facts will be in.


I am sorry for all the tragic loss.

For the families and loved ones
this will change everything waking moment of the rest of their lives.

Some will not survive
some will be resilient
and find ways to go on.

My best and sincerest wishes go out to all.

Let somebody know that you love them

Perhaps, we should try and be a little better and more decent.

In honor of those who have lost their opportunity
to make the world a little bit better.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:44 PM   #69
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i don't want to point fingers and blame. but i just can't help but think that if campus was shut down IMMEDIATELY after the first shooting, that perhaps those 20 that were killed in the classroom would'nt've been in class.

i know, i know, it is a horrible thing to say. but i can't understand why classeses wouldn't be cancelled and the entire campus locked down after the first shooting at 7am. and then to have a 2nd shooting a whole 3 hours later?!

i guess i'm just still in shock. i don't mean to offend, i just don't understand the procedures involved i guess.

this just in: police report that shooter shot and killed himself. he was an asian-american male.

ill keep you all posted.
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^Yeah, I didn't get that either. If a gunman is on the loose, classes should be canceled.
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CBS news claims the death toll is up to 29...
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this is horrible. I'm at work and just can't focus on my job. I'm so sorry Mia and everyone involved.
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i don't want to point fingers and blame. but i just can't help but think that if campus was shut down IMMEDIATELY after the first shooting, that perhaps those 20 that were killed in the classroom would'nt've been in class.

i know, i know, it is a horrible thing to say. but i can't understand why classeses wouldn't be cancelled and the entire campus locked down after the first shooting at 7am. and then to have a 2nd shooting a whole 3 hours later?!

Well this is part of the truth that will be revealed later. I'm not sure the logic behind a move like this, but maybe we don't know everything. I think this is an American attitude, I'm not sure, but it seems like we like for life to go on and pretend nothing happens...
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Apr. 16, 2007— At least 29 people are dead in what may be the biggest mass killing on a college campus in American history — and the death toll may rise.

Police at Virginia Tech, in Blaksburg, Va., said that the shootings happened at a dormitory and a classroom on opposite sides of the university campus.

Law enforcement sources tell ABC News the shooting may have been set off by an off-campus incident. Details were unclear.

Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said that one person was killed in the first shooting, which occurred just after 7 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a large dormitory. Flinchum said that at least 20 more people were killed at Norris Hall, an academic building.


The gunman, whose identity has not been released, is among the dead. Flinchum wouldn't say whether the shooter had killed himself.


ABC News has confirmed that there were two separate bomb threats last week at Virginia Tech that targeted engineering buildings. The first was directed at Torgersen Hall, while the second was directed at multiple engineering buildings. Students and staff were evacuated, and the university had offered a $5,000 reward for information into the threats.


Two local hospitals have reported treating 21 people, though it is unclear how many of those may have died.


University president Charles Steger said that police have not officially tied together the two shootings.


Steger described today's events as an incident of "tragic proportions" and said, "the university is shocked and horrified that this would befall us."


The campus is closed today and classed are canceled today and tomorrow. Families seeking to reunite with their children have been directed by the university to the Inn at Virginia Tech.

Virginia Tech, located in western Virginia near the borders of West Virginia and Tennessee, has more than 25,000 full time students. Its campus, which spreads out over 2,600 acres, has more than 100 buildings.

S. Daniel Carter, senior vice president for Security On Campus, Inc. who has been studying campus crime for 15 years, said he watched the news at Virginia Tech unfold in "utter shock." Carter is based a couple of hours' drive away, in Knoxville, Tenn.


"Nothing like this has happened before," he said, adding that the average number of killings on all American campuses combined has hovered around 20 since the Department of Education formally began collecting data in the early 1990s.


While information had not been released about the gunman, Carter said he suspected that whoever the shooter was suffered from some deep psychological problem and was likely connected to the university campus in some way.


"In the past, in similar cases, it's usually been a psychological issue and not just a security issue," Carter said. "One of the people who was killed was an older individual, maybe a faculty member. That could be a likely underlying factor in this case  someone who has failed."


"It is difficult to comprehend senseless violence on this scale," said Virginia's Governor Timothy M. Kaine in a statement. "Our prayers are with the families and friends of these victims, and members of the extended Virginia Tech community."
perhaps these are two separate incidents, tragic and ironic as it may be, and that they thought everything was over after the first shooting, thus why they stoped the first lockdown

grasping for straws i know
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:06 PM   #75
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i dont know how appropriate this might sound considering the immensity of today...but its a day and an event like this that can put something like "Sunday Bloody Sunday" or "Peace on Earth" into context, coming to terms with a tragedy such as this.
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