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Old 12-14-2003, 01:45 PM   #46
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Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'll post it here anyway.

What should be done with Saddam?
International court? Iraqi court?

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Amnesty International said today that Saddam should be given POW status and allowed visits by the international Red Cross.
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Hussein's capture is defintely a huge step forward for the Iraqi people, hopefully now they can live in peace, but I think that that would anger groups such as Al Qaeda. Wouldn't they want to get back at the US for capturing Saddam, whether or not he actually supported terrorism?
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Maybe now there will be less attacks on people and more moving forward.


i think it might be the opposite, im afraid. i hope im wrong.
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I'm also nervous about possible stepped up opposition. A big shot is obviously gone but the insurgents are out there. There are still idiots who think car bombings will get them virgins in paradise or some damn thing. There are reports that Al Qaeda is stepping up their activities in Iraq. Al Qaeda and Saddam were not allies. Al Qaeda doesn't give a damn that he's captured. They'll keep on trying to screw up the whole situation. I'd love to be wrong about this. I am very tired of killings and madness. I hope this madness can be stopped ASAP.
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i think it might be the opposite, im afraid. i hope im wrong.

Unfortunately, I feel the same way.

I think the violence is going to increase in Iraq and I wouldn't be surprised if the US suffers another terrorist attack of some kind.
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what an amazing thing to wake up to this morning. i never thought he would be captured alive. well done troops! and yes i will admit this, well done Pres Bush.
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I'm also nervous about possible stepped up opposition. A big shot is obviously gone but the insurgents are out there. There are still idiots who think car bombings will get them virgins in paradise or some damn thing. There are reports that Al Qaeda is stepping up their activities in Iraq. Al Qaeda and Saddam were not allies. Al Qaeda doesn't give a damn that he's captured. They'll keep on trying to screw up the whole situation. I'd love to be wrong about this. I am very tired of killings and madness. I hope this madness can be stopped ASAP.

yes rats when cornered tend to become even more violent. Some Baathists have nothing to lose, for if they are caught will be in a world hurt equal to the pain they inflicted on Iraqi citizens.
Expect even a tighter, coordinated effort with terrorists ("insurgents" seems to kind to me) in Iraq. On the other hand, many will give up and go home demoralized.

I am curious to see how other "dominoes" might fall. Will intel gathering become easier, leading to a wealth of info? Will the UN return? Will other countries be inclined to offer more assistance? Will the Vietnam analogies end?

As for Al Qaeda and Saddam, don't know if they were allies, but more and more info seems to point that they were communicating, if not cooperating thru the 90's. I am surprised that nobody has posted the Telegraph (byline Coughlin) article from yesterday.

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," said [Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man Presidential Committee]. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."
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I don't doubt that Saddam wanted to use Al-Qaeda for political purposes, but he and bin Laden were not particularly allies. By the same token both were anti-U.S. Not long before the war broke out bin Laden, in a tape, accused Saddam of being an "infidel" and a "socialist". Likewise Al-Qaeda used resentment, especially in the Sunni Triangle, against the U.S. for their own purposes and goals, a heavy duty Wahhabist-style jihad. I have to wonder what would happen if they could round up bin Laden. This could dry up some of the financing of these activities. No doubt Saddam was funding some of this. Bin Laden is funding some of this. Someone is pouring billions into the Al-Qaeda network. If we could stop the funding this would really be bad news for the terrorists, and great for everyone else.
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Maybe this should be a new thread, but I'll post it here anyway.

What should be done with Saddam?
International court? Iraqi court?

I think it should be the Iraqi court since the crimes Saddam is being accused off are crimes against the people of Iraq, not crimes against other nations/the international community

+ I'm selfish enough to admit that - being dutch and all - I don't want Saddam in The Hague, because I don't think this will be the end of violence
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"I think it should be the Iraqi court since the crimes Saddam is being accused off are crimes against the people of Iraq, not crimes against other nations/the international community"

I think Iran and Kuwait has some say in his fate. Maybe it should be a combo court.
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it seems like GW bush caught the devil himself
, Yay
, all our problems are solved
, NOT
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I think the Iraqis would like it to be an Iraqi court. If so they should get their wish.
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This is a good day for the people of Iraq!
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Saddam's crimes have not just been against the Iraqi people. Look at what he did to Kuwait in 1990. Thousands of Kuwaiti's are still missing. Iran lost over 300,000 troops from a war that Saddam started. Saudi Arabians living in border towns near the Kuwait border suffered when Saddam sent Iraqi divisions into Arabia. Saddam launched multiple Scud Missiles against Saudi Arabia. He also flooded the Persian Gulf with Kuwaiti oil causing massive environmental damage as well as setting hundreds of oil wells on fire.

Lets not forget his launching of Scud Missiles against Israel and his support of terrorism against Israel.

Violation of 17 UN Security Council Resolutions passed under Chapter VII rules of the UN and the Ceacefire Agreement.

Taking hundreds of foreigners (called guests) hostage during the run up to the first Gulf War. The abuse of American POWs.

Saddam's violations and crimes go well beyond what he did to the people of Iraq.
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Unfortunately, I feel the same way.

I think the violence is going to increase in Iraq and I wouldn't be surprised if the US suffers another terrorist attack of some kind.

exactly.
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