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Old 01-08-2008, 10:55 PM   #376
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Fuck. I need Edwards to get out of this race before super tuesday. I can't imagine that Clinton would get a lot of his supporters.
While I agree that a majority of his supporters would go to Obama, I think some who cite health care as their number one concern might go with Clinton.
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Yes but I was referring to the radical Islam threat, Iraq, Iran which is what i'm pretty sure that melon was referring to. Radical Islam wouldn't be a threat to us if we stayed out of their business.
My post stands exactly as said.

Way too simplistic of a view.

For some parts of radical Islam, that's true.

For others, they'd still be threats.
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While I agree that a majority of his supporters would go to Obama, I think some who cite health care as their number one concern might go with Clinton.

Piss of with your 'logic' and 'reason'.
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I don't want to start a discussion about this, as it's completely off-topic, but that is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
I know you are a neo-con so hence you are never going to see reality, so that is why I don't want to start a discussion either. But your ignorance and arrogance are one of the stupidest things that i've ever seen.
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They wouldn't be threats to us if we didn't interfere with them. That is why they are threats, because we go into their land and tell them what to do. If we stayed out of all their business like Canada does, we wouldn't need to lose time, money and American lives waging wars on the other side of the globe in order to defeat "threats."
It is a fairly nice sounding platitude, but isolationism has not suited the U.S. historically. We're stuck in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of scenario. "Damned" if we do get involved in global conflicts, because then we're interpreted as the "world police"; "damned" if we don't, because then we're seen as being self-centered, irresponsible global citizens. How many in the anti-war crowd wanted the U.S. to get involved in Darfur, Sudan?

I'm not here to defend Iraq, which was, in hindsight, an ideologically driven escapade given false justification after the fact (as anyone having studied PNAC can attest to). But one colossal mistake (Iraq) should not automatically lead to the other extreme of isolationism.
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Obama is truly an excellent speaker, no matter what.
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Obama's getting in good swipes at hillary.
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Is anyone going to answer my question about the delegates?
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Is anyone going to answer my question about the delegates?
I have no idea. No one in the media seems to give a shit about it.
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I don't have the answer
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We've already interfered with them. Get it?

What's done is done.

Deal with the problem as it actually exists not as an ideal.

That's a moderate, objective, realistic viewpoint, IMO.

That doesn't work well in rallys when you're calling for "change" and trying to placate the left wing idealists but it's as fucking real world as it gets.
Yea, we've already interfered with them. They attacked us, so there is nothing wrong in fighting back (Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda). But why continue to interfere with them in Iraq, Iran, etc.? We don't need to do that.
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I heart Obama.
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Is anyone going to answer my question about the delegates?
We're talking two tiny states with relatively few delegates. It could theoretically go to anyone in later primaries at this point.
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