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Old 02-18-2007, 12:16 AM   #61
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I watched it w/ my husband a few weeks ago and when it was done he said "welcome to my childhood." My biggest problem was how political they make issues that aren't political, thus ignoring REAL issues like health care, public education, foreign policy and aid.... I guess everyone has a right to think what they think and say what they say - I think those people are nuts, but they probably think I am nuts - but I can't get over how absurdly they prioritize issues. Also, Pentecostalism (the speaking in tongues, conversion experiences, weeping and shaking) really creeps me out.
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Old 02-18-2007, 12:38 AM   #62
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This movie really shook me because these people have transformed religion to no longer be something personal about having a relationship with God. They've turned religion into something political, and are specifically seeking control of the government. It's not just about being one with God, now for them it is about dominating this nation with their "Christian" ideals. Like Rono said, as much as they talked about how great democracy and this government is, they certainly weren't pushing for religious freedom. They want to live in a nation that controls the people with these religious fundamental values.
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I downloaded this the other week and it made me very angry, depressed, afraid, and repulsed.
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Watching that Ted Haggard guy (on this documentary and the Richard Dawkins one) made me sick. I absolutely loathe everything about him, he's so ingenuine, he's a total hypocritical liar and his whole manner is so transparent. Glad he's been exposed for the liar he is.

I was shocked by this documentary to, I hope they were inlfated the actual scope of the problem because the extent seems quite serious from what I've seen (although it was filmed in the south and we all know what that's like generally speaking).
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:10 AM   #65
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^ I thought it was filmed in North Dakota and Kansas City?
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I don't think they inflated the scope. Honestly, the film didn't really surprise me at all and I've seen another documentary on a Jesus Camp that was far more disturbing to me. I think that these types of people are very, very common it's just that previously they mainly kept to themselves because the secular world is "evil" but now they've turned their cult into a political movement.
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I still haven't seen this. I need to though. Is it on DVD yet?
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I still haven't seen this. I need to though. Is it on DVD yet?
go rent it...but go to bed with a nightlight on.
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This movie is horrifying and so are the people in it.

I honestly believe it is akin to child abuse.
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This movie is horrifying and so are the people in it.

I honestly believe it is akin to child abuse.
Me to, it is rape of the mind,...
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Bought the movie and found it scary but interesting how adults influence their children. I don't see it as child abuse and I am sure when these kids get older they will learn things their parents did not want them to know.

"I downloaded this the other week and it made me very angry, depressed, afraid, and repulsed."---Angela Harlem

We could say that about all our politicians too. I mean aren't we the same way when an election is coming up? brainwashed by your canidate to believe he/she can do what they say?
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what's also interesting, especially if you haven't read the previous discussion between myself and Nathan1977, is that everyone who is in the film is happy with the film and think it is an accurate depiction of what the camp does.

it is quite straightforward, its just depicting a very different world than the one many of us grew up in. i know that Heidi and Rachel (the directors) are actually very fond of many children in the film and keep in touch with them. and i was surprised at how much i liked the individual children themselves. they were bright and intelligent and some were quite articulate.

for whatever that's worth.

am glad people are seeing the film, though.
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Levi is cool. hehehe Preacher future for him. Maybe people find it strange, scary, evil, because they live differently and are not as happy as these people are???
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