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He became straight

How a 'gay rights' leader became straight

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Posted: July 3, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Michael Glatze


Homosexuality came easy to me, because I was already weak.

My mom died when I was 19. My father had died when I was 13. At an early age, I was already confused about who I was and how I felt about others.

My confusion about "desire" and the fact that I noticed I was "attracted" to guys made me put myself into the "gay" category at age 14. At age 20, I came out as gay to everybody else around me.

At age 22, I became an editor of the first magazine aimed at a young, gay male audience. It bordered on pornography in its photographic content, but I figured I could use it as a platform to bigger and better things.

Sure enough, Young Gay America came around. It was meant to fill the void that the other magazine I'd worked for had created – namely, anything not-so-pornographic, aimed at the population of young, gay Americans. Young Gay America took off.





Gay people responded happily to Young Gay America. It received awards, recognition, respectability and great honors, including the National Role Model Award from major gay organization Equality Forum – which was given to Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien a year later – and a whole host of appearances in the media, from PBS to the Seattle Times, from MSNBC to the cover story in Time magazine.

I produced, with the help of PBS-affiliates and Equality Forum, the first major documentary film to tackle gay teen suicide, "Jim In Bold," which toured the world and received numerous "best in festival" awards.

Young Gay America created a photo exhibit, full of photographs and stories of gay youth all across the North American continent, which toured Europe, Canada and parts of the United States.

Young Gay America launched YGA Magazine in 2004, to pretend to provide a "virtuous counterpart" to the other newsstand media aimed at gay youth. I say "pretend" because the truth was, YGA was as damaging as anything else out there, just not overtly pornographic, so it was more "respected."

It took me almost 16 years to discover that homosexuality itself is not exactly "virtuous." It was difficult for me to clarify my feelings on the issue, given that my life was so caught up in it.

Homosexuality, delivered to young minds, is by its very nature pornographic. It destroys impressionable minds and confuses their developing sexuality; I did not realize this, however, until I was 30 years old.

YGA Magazine sold out of its first issue in several North American cities. There was extreme support, by all sides, for YGA Magazine; schools, parent groups, libraries, governmental associations, everyone seemed to want it. It tapped right into the zeitgeist of "accepting and promoting" homosexuality, and I was considered a leader. I was asked to speak on the prestigious JFK Jr. Forum at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government in 2005.

It was, after viewing my words on a videotape of that "performance," that I began to seriously doubt what I was doing with my life and influence.

Knowing no one who I could approach with my questions and my doubts, I turned to God; I'd developed a growing relationship with God, thanks to a debilitating bout with intestinal cramps caused by the upset stomach-inducing behaviors I'd been engaged in.

Soon, I began to understand things I'd never known could possibly be real, such as the fact that I was leading a movement of sin and corruption – which is not to sound as though my discovery was based on dogma, because decidedly it was not.

I came to the conclusions on my own.

It became clear to me, as I really thought about it – and really prayed about it – that homosexuality prevents us from finding our true self within. We cannot see the truth when we're blinded by homosexuality.

We believe, under the influence of homosexuality, that lust is not just acceptable, but a virtue. But there is no homosexual "desire" that is apart from lust.

In denial of this fact, I'd fought to erase such truth at all costs, and participated in the various popular ways of taking responsibility out of human hands for challenging the temptations of lust and other behaviors. I was sure – thanks to culture and world leaders – that I was doing the right thing.

Driven to look for truth, because nothing felt right, I looked within. Jesus Christ repeatedly advises us not to trust anybody other than Him. I did what He said, knowing that the Kingdom of God does reside in the heart and mind of every man.

What I discovered – what I learned – about homosexuality was amazing. How I'd first "discovered" homosexual desires back in high school was by noticing that I looked at other guys. How I healed, when it became decidedly clear that I should – or risk hurting more people – is that I paid attention to myself.

Every time I was tempted to lust, I noticed it, caught it, dealt with it. I called it what it was, and then just let it disappear on its own. A huge and vital difference exists between superficial admiration – of yourself, or others – and integral admiration. In loving ourselves fully, we no longer need anything from the "outside" world of lustful desire, recognition from others, or physical satisfaction. Our drives become intrinsic to our very essence, unbridled by neurotic distractions.

Homosexuality allows us to avoid digging deeper, through superficiality and lust-inspired attractions – at least, as long as it remains "accepted" by law. As a result, countless miss out on their truest self, their God-given Christ-self.

Homosexuality, for me, began at age 13 and ended – once I "cut myself off" from outside influences and intensely focused on inner truth – when I discovered the depths of my God-given self at age 30.

God is regarded as an enemy by many in the grip of homosexuality or other lustful behavior, because He reminds them of who and what they truly are meant to be. People caught in the act would rather stay "blissfully ignorant" by silencing truth and those who speak it, through antagonism, condemnation and calling them words like "racist," "insensitive," "evil" and "discriminatory."

Healing from the wounds caused by homosexuality is not easy – there's little obvious support. What support remains is shamed, ridiculed, silenced by rhetoric or made illegal by twisting of laws. I had to sift through my own embarrassment and the disapproving "voices" of all I'd ever known to find it. Part of the homosexual agenda is getting people to stop considering that conversion is even a viable question to be asked, let alone whether or not it works.

In my experience, "coming out" from under the influence of the homosexual mindset was the most liberating, beautiful and astonishing thing I've ever experienced in my entire life.

Lust takes us out of our bodies, "attaching" our psyche onto someone else's physical form. That's why homosexual sex – and all other lust-based sex – is never satisfactory: It's a neurotic process rather than a natural, normal one. Normal is normal – and has been called normal for a reason.

Abnormal means "that which hurts us, hurts normal." Homosexuality takes us out of our normal state, of being perfectly united in all things, and divides us, causing us to forever pine for an outside physical object that we can never possess. Homosexual people – like all people – yearn for the mythical true love, which does actually exist. The problem with homosexuality is that true love only comes when we have nothing preventing us from letting it shine forth from within. We cannot fully be ourselves when our minds are trapped in a cycle and group-mentality of sanctioned, protected and celebrated lust.

God came to me when I was confused and lost, alone, afraid and upset. He told me – through prayer – that I had nothing at all to be afraid of, and that I was home; I just needed to do a little house cleaning in my mind.

I believe that all people, intrinsically, know the truth. I believe that is why Christianity scares people so much. It reminds them of their conscience, which we all possess.

Conscience tells us right from wrong and is a guide by which we can grow and become stronger and freer human beings. Healing from sin and ignorance is always possible, but the first thing anyone must do is get out of the mentalities that divide and conquer humanity.

Sexual truth can be found, provided we're all willing and driven to accept that our culture sanctions behaviors that harm life. Guilt should be no reason to avoid the difficult questions.

Homosexuality took almost 16 years of my life and compromised them with one lie or another, perpetuated through national media targeted at children. In European countries, homosexuality is considered so normal that grade-school children are being provided "gay" children's books as required reading in public schools.

Poland, a country all-too familiar with the destruction of its people by outside influences, is bravely attempting to stop the European Union from indoctrinating its children with homosexual propaganda. In response, the European Union has called the prime minister of Poland "repulsive."

I was repulsive for quite some time; I am still dealing with all of my guilt.

As a leader in the "gay rights" movement, I was given the opportunity to address the public many times. If I could take back some of the things I said, I would. Now I know that homosexuality is lust and pornography wrapped into one. I'll never let anybody try to convince me otherwise, no matter how slick their tongues or how sad their story. I have seen it. I know the truth.

God gave us truth for a reason. It exists so we could be ourselves. It exists so we could share that perfect self with the world, to make the perfect world. These are not fanciful schemes or strange ideals – these are the Truth.

Healing from the sins of the world will not happen in an instant; but, it will happen – if we don't pridefully block it. God wins in the end, in case you didn't know.
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Yeah, I know someone who became straight, too. After leading an openly gay life for many years, AIDS and the Christian church scared the shit out of him. So he became straight. He married a woman and had a child. He hates his wife and women in general and never misses an opportunity to put her down in public. He's angry, hateful, resentful, critical, drinks too much, and goes to church on Sunday to repent. They've not shared a bed since their daughter was conceived (she's 16 now) and when you ask her what daddy does for a living she answers, "I don't know. Mom and I don't know. We never see him. He has some kind of secret life." They've been "together" now for 25 years. It's so beautiful how he was able to turn his life around. Praise the Lord. :up:
 
joyfulgirl said:
Yeah, I know someone who became straight, too. After leading an openly gay life for many years, AIDS and the Christian church scared the shit out of him. So he became straight. He married a woman and had a child. He hates his wife and women in general and never misses an opportunity to put her down in public. He's angry, hateful, resentful, critical, drinks too much, and goes to church on Sunday to repent. They've not shared a bed since their daughter was conceived (she's 16 now) and when you ask her what daddy does for a living she answers, "I don't know. Mom and I don't know. We never see him. He has some kind of secret life." They've been "together" now for 25 years. It's so beautiful how he was able to turn his life around. Praise the Lord. :up:

I dunno, I know a lot of straights that are in similar marriages, it's has nothing to do w being a "closeted gay".

dbs
 
diamond said:


I dunno, I know a lot of straights that are in similar marriages, it's has nothing to do w being a "closeted gay".

dbs

But were any of them admittedly homosexual and then covered it up because the Church scared them?

Didn't think so.
 
phillyfan26 said:


But were any of them admittedly homosexual and then covered it up because the Church scared them?

Didn't think so.

Why don't you research it and let us know of your findings?

dbs
 
Re: He became straight

diamond said:


Homosexuality came easy to me, because I was already weak.


It starts off bad and then goes downhill after that...

I came to the conclusions on my own.

Right... nothing in that article speaks of coming to conclusions on your own.
 
phillyfan26 said:


You want me to research your straight friends' marriages?

Any straight marriage that isn't blissful and see if there is a hidden gay element.

Now get to work.

dbs
:wink:
 
Pretty disgusting theology, if he wants to put himself through a round of religiously demanded sexual repression then let him but as soon as he starts babbling about prayer and Gods design he looses a lot of credibility. He should be held up and highlighted as a model, of the more deleterious effects of religious belief.

Why continue to believe in a deity that "designed" you so fatally wrong? What manner of contorted logic demands that you control your own innate sexual desires by declaring them thoughtcrime?

Furthurmore the concept that morality is bestowed upon individuals by their religious belief is demonstrably false in that religious people are capable of and continue to commit terrible crimes against others and that those without religion or belief are capable of moral reasoning and acts of good.

It's the same old shit, replayed and repackaged to reinforce the prejudice and bigotry of religious groups.
 
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diamond said:


Any straight marriage that isn't blissful and see if there is a hidden gay element.

Now get to work.

dbs
:wink:

I don't think that relates to her point.

Her point wasn't that miserable marriages are the result of homosexuality. Her point was that many homosexuals convince themselves that they can change, and suppress their true feelings. Plenty of people lie to themselves. I see it all the time. Her point is that he suppressed his true feelings out of fear, and ended up miserable.
 
phillyfan26 said:


I don't think that relates to her point.

Her point wasn't that miserable marriages are the result of homosexuality. Her point was that many homosexuals convince themselves that they can change, and suppress their true feelings. Plenty of people lie to themselves. I see it all the time. Her point is that he suppressed his true feelings out of fear, and ended up miserable.

However he coulda been a miserable person in a gay relationship as well.
He could be a high strung person regardless of his sexuality.

dbs
 
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This totally reminds me of the Mr. Show skit with the gay anti-gay activist. That was classic.
 
A_Wanderer said:
Pretty disgusting theology, if he wants to put himself through a round of religiously demanded sexual repression then let him but as soon as he starts babbling about prayer and Gods design he looses a lot of credibility. He should be held up and highlighted as a model, of the more deleterious effects of religious belief.

Why continue to believe in a deity that "designed" you so fatally wrong? What manner of contorted logic demands that you control your own innate sexual desires by declaring them thoughtcrime?

Furthurmore the concept that morality is bestowed upon individuals by their religious belief is demonstrably false in that religious people are capable of and continue to commit terrible crimes against others and that those without religion or belief are capable of moral reasoning and acts of good.

It's the same old shit, replayed and repackaged to reinforce the prejudice and bigotry of religious groups.

Let guess, you believe in science right?

dbs
 
diamond said:


However he coulda been a miserable person in a gay relationship as well.
He could be a high strung person regrdless of his sexuality.

dbs

I do not think it is too hard to add up 2 and 2 to make 4.
 
diamond said:


Let guess, you believe in science right?

dbs
Science does not inform morality, it is a system for the accumulation of knowledge and the investigation of the universe not declarations of what is right or wrong or how things are said to have been caused by revealed truth (of course when a scientific theory to explain the evidence is put forth and accepted it is not immutable and can be discarded with the accumulation of evidence that it cannot explain).

I "believe" in individualism and liberty, the right for people to be ex-gays is perfectly fine by me but at the same time the evidence of human sexuality points that most people can't change their orientation and if they can prayer would probably be a pretty bad way to go about it (evidence such as faith based addiction programs having results on par with people going it alone would be supporting evidence - the stats on how many ex gays keep on the straight and narrow so to speak could settle this little debate).

I take exception to the agenda of these groups when they overstep the boundaries of the secular state and want to promulgate anti-gay literature into the public education system or supress material which says that it's okay for gay teens to be open about their sexuality. That's discriminatory.
 
diamond said:


I dunno, I know a lot of straights that are in similar marriages, it's has nothing to do w being a "closeted gay".

dbs

In the case of the marriage I was referring to, it's quite obvious to everyone who knows him, including the wife. Probably the kid at this point, too. But they carry on because it's convenient.

But really, good luck to Michael Glatze.
 
Re: He became straight

diamond said:
How a 'gay rights' leader became straight

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Posted: July 3, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Michael Glatze


Homosexuality came easy to me, because I was already weak.




That's probably one of the most offensive things I've ever read.:|
 
3 former leaders of ex-gay ministry apologize

They cite psychological harm they caused gays as the ministry, Exodus International, meets in Irvine.

By Rebecca Trounson, Times Staff
June 28, 2007

Three former leaders of Exodus International, often described as the nation's largest ex-gay ministry, publicly apologized Wednesday for the harm they said their efforts had caused many gays and lesbians who believed the group's message that sexual orientation could be changed through prayer.

Speaking at a Hollywood news conference, the former leaders of the interdenominational Christian organization said they had acted sincerely in their years of work with Exodus. But they said they had all, over time, become disillusioned with the group's ideas and concerned about what they described as the wrenching human toll of such gay conversion efforts.

The news event, in a courtyard outside an office of the Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center, was timed to coincide with the opening of Exodus' annual conference, which is being held this week at Concordia University in Irvine. A competing "ex-gay survivor" convention is to begin Friday at UC Irvine.


The former leaders from Exodus cast its work in grim terms.

"Some who heard our message were compelled to try to change an integral part of themselves, bringing harm to themselves and their families," the three, including former Exodus co-founder Michael Bussee, said in a joint written statement presented at the news conference. "Although we acted in good faith, we have since witnessed the isolation, shame, fear and loss of faith that this message creates."

Now a licensed family therapist in Riverside, Bussee left Exodus in 1979 after he fell in love with a man who was a fellow ex-gay counselor with the group. He speaks out frequently against ex-gay therapies.

"God's love and forgiveness does indeed change people," said Bussee, who remains an evangelical Christian. "It changed me. It just didn't make me straight."

Others speaking at Wednesday's news conference included Jeremy Marks, former president of Exodus International Europe, and Darlene Bogle, the founder and former director of Paraklete Ministries, an Exodus referral agency based in Hayward, Calif.

All three said they had known people who had tried to change their sexual orientation with the help of the group but had failed, often becoming depressed or even suicidal as a result.

"We are committed Christians, but we're still gay," said Marks, who heads Courage UK, a gay-affirming evangelical ministry based in England.

Among those at the news conference was the Rev. Mel White, founder and president of a faith-based gay rights group called Soulforce. White, who was the ghostwriter for the Rev. Jerry Falwell's autobiography and later came out as gay, praised the former Exodus leaders.

"It's a major moment, a paradigm shift," White said. "They're saying this doesn't work, and that's incredibly important."

The Exodus meeting is expected to attract about 1,000 people, Chambers said. Chambers, who is married and has children, said he and other current Exodus officials are careful to warn those who seek help that such a path is not easy.

Sexual orientation "isn't a light switch that you can switch on and off," he said.
 
deep said:

Good article!! Mel White's story is amazing. I still can't believe what he had to go through. He is one of Philip Yancey and his wife's best friends. Yancey has a whole chapter about him in "What's So Amazing About Grace". I would say that it really was a pivotal moment in me changing the prejudices and ignorances I used to have against homosexuals. I still struggle sometimes with the Biblical passages on homosexuality, but ultimately I have to remember how things may have been translated improperly, and I have no business looking at someone else's life. If he/she feels they have peace with God, I have NO business questioning that even a little bit.
 
joyfulgirl said:
Yeah, I know someone who became straight, too. After leading an openly gay life for many years, AIDS and the Christian church scared the shit out of him. So he became straight. He married a woman and had a child. He hates his wife and women in general and never misses an opportunity to put her down in public. He's angry, hateful, resentful, critical, drinks too much, and goes to church on Sunday to repent. They've not shared a bed since their daughter was conceived (she's 16 now) and when you ask her what daddy does for a living she answers, "I don't know. Mom and I don't know. We never see him. He has some kind of secret life." They've been "together" now for 25 years. It's so beautiful how he was able to turn his life around. Praise the Lord. :up:

Wait, do you mean Praise the Lord that he was able to become straight or go back to being gay? I didn't understand that part.
 
Sloane Peterson said:


Wait, do you mean Praise the Lord that he was able to become straight or go back to being gay? I didn't understand that part.

I believe she was being sarcastic. She was basically trying to say "Praise the Lord" sarcastically that this guy has ruined his life, his wife, and his daughter's because of the teaching of the Ex gay movement or whatever they're calling it now. Sorry to speak for you joyful girl; I wasn't sure if you were still here! If I'm completely off, :reject:
 
Sloane Peterson said:


Wait, do you mean Praise the Lord that he was able to become straight or go back to being gay? I didn't understand that part.

She was being sarcastic. Some people have the ignorant belief that God and Christ were against homosexuality.
 
I do believe some people are genetically disposed at birth or otherwise to be gay.

I do believe that some people are confused (not in a deragotory way), asexual or bisexual. Some of these people kind of switch back and forth, with no real preference or orientation.

I believe that any kind of major emotional experience, or change in life direction (say religious) could easily move this group one direction or another.

I can and does happen.

Is it God? Sure. In some cases. Is it their mind? Sure, in some cases. Is it peer pressure? Sure, in some cases. Is it just them and who they are? Yes.

Although Christ didn't explicity come out against homosexuality, he did support the tenants of most of the OT. We all know that many writers/prophets of the OT explicitly came out against homosexuality.

Of course Paul, also supported these writers/prophets, and explicitly came out against homosexuality in the NT.

I guess that's about as far as the Bible takes it. The rest is up to you!
 
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