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View Poll Results: Who will you be voting for, for US President?
Kerry 171 66.02%
Bush 74 28.57%
None. I'm a loser and won't vote. 4 1.54%
Other. I'm a loser too and would prefer to waste my vote on someone else in this tight race. 3 1.16%
Undecided between Bush and Kerry. 7 2.70%
Voters: 259. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 09-04-2004, 06:03 PM   #121
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To the comment about the Dems winning in 2008, there is almost no chance of that occurring, IMHO. If Rudy Guiliani runs for the office, he will win, even if the lefties do choose Hilary. He's a middle of the road republican with both consevatives and liberals embracing him. He has probably the most respect of any politician in the country and has the support to make a very strong campaign.
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Old 09-04-2004, 07:20 PM   #122
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I don't know, I feel like Don Quixote right now. If Giuliani runs in 2008, he'll be a tough candidate to beat. The one thing I'm thinking of: what if McCain runs against him in the primaries? He might have something to say about wanting the nomination himself; I'm not sure he's completely given up his presidential ambitions.
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Old 09-05-2004, 08:00 PM   #123
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http://www.gallup.com/content/?ci=12919

Check this link out.
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Old 09-06-2004, 07:12 AM   #124
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My Don Quixote complex is alive and well. Gotta love the man from La Mancha, I'm just like him!!
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Old 09-06-2004, 10:12 AM   #125
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Its unfortunate that the results in this poll are not playing out the same way across the country otherwise Kerry would win!!!!!!(take a wild guess who I voted for here)
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Old 09-06-2004, 12:23 PM   #126
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The result is that I've hit a creativity explosion on my history site. My Celtic link selection on my URL List is looking pretty kick-ass now. I went in there Friday when the bad news started to come in and decided that part of the list was so small it really sucked. It's the first time I've done anything to the list since I've had DSL. I don't know how I did that stuff on dial-up. This is much easier. By election day this thing is going to be great.
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Old 09-06-2004, 04:31 PM   #127
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The new CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP poll is in and George Bush leads John Kerry by 52% to 45%. That is a 7 point margin well above the margin of error. It is however only a 2 point bounce in the number of people voting for Bush. But that is better than the negative 1% bounce that Kerry received.

http://www.gallup.com/content/defaul...?ci=12922&pg=1
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Old 09-06-2004, 05:09 PM   #128
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Here are the leads that the candidate who was ahead on labor day had and whether they ultimately won the election 2 months later. Here are the last 17 election year labor day leads starting in 1936.

1936 4 won
1940 9 won
1944 5 won
1948 8 lost
1952 16 won
1956 11 won
1960 1 lost
1964 30 won
1968 12 won
1972 28 won
1976 11 won
1980 4 lost
1984 11 won
1988 8 won
1992 9 won
1996 17 won
2000 3 lost
2004 7 unknown
Of the past 17 elections, 13 have gone to the candidate that was ahead on labor day weekend. In the four elections where this did not occur, 3 of them were leads that were still within the margin of error.

Still in 1948, Truman did come from behind and 8 point lead by Dewey to win. Kerry is going to have repeat that history in order to win.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:49 AM   #129
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Utterly Useless Statistics:

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By LEE KALCHEIM

40 percent of parents who dislike 30 percent of their children prefer George W. Bush.

60 percent of households that fly flags think America can do no wrong 26 percent of the time.

70 percent of women who think Mr. Bush is more likeable than their husbands prefer John Kerry.

52 percent of people with wall-to-wall carpeting dislike Mr. Bush's plan for redecorating Iraq.

98 percent of people who are hearing-impaired like 50 percent of what they hear from Mr. Bush.

100 percent of Spanish-American War veterans are dead.

98 percent of World War I veterans can't remember the name of either candidate. Both prefer Coolidge.

43 percent of women think Mr. Bush has more presidential hair. 26 percent think John Edwards has more vice presidential hair. 47 percent think Mr. Edwards has more presidential hair and 26 percent think Mr. Kerry has more vice presidential hair. 92 percent think Dick Cheney has no hair. 73 percent think Mr. Bush's hair is irrelevant. 54 percent think Mr. Bush is irrelevant.

76 percent of women think Teresa Heinz Kerry colors her hair. 53 percent of those women would prefer a different color. 42 percent would prefer a different first lady.

One-half of all Jewish mothers like one-half of Mr. Kerry.

63 percent of single women over 50 think John Kerry is too tall for his own good. 71 percent of divorced women say George Bush would be an ideal ex-husband.

Before the Republican convention, 86 percent of the population thought Zell Miller was a professional golfer. After the convention, 92 percent of the population would not like to be in his foursome.

50 percent of the electorate think that polls are misleading, inaccurate and inconclusive. The other 50 percent agree 30 percent of the time with 40 percent of the results.
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:16 AM   #130
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:11 AM   #131
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Well heck, at least I'll have a great site.
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In 2000 Al Gore had an eleven point lead in the polls before the debates and look what happened. I'm not necessarily saying that sort of thing will happen again, but I'm just saying it has in the recent past and I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
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I don't understand WV. Most of the people out there are very old fashioned morally and philosophically, so you'd think the democrats would be too far left for them. But they almost always go democratic because they hold onto the belief that they are for the poor. I don't believe any politician is really for the poor. The only difference is, some lie about it and some are open with it.
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My paternal grandfather was born in West Virginia. You're right, they used to vote Democratic because of economics. It was a "pocketbook" vote. They are more socially conservative, which might explain their present situation as a more Republican state than in previous times.
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In 2000 Al Gore had an eleven point lead in the polls before the debates and look what happened. I'm not necessarily saying that sort of thing will happen again, but I'm just saying it has in the recent past and I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
An eleven point lead? Who's polling data are you using? Gallup polling data shows that Al Gore only had a 3 point lead on labor day which was within the margin of error, which means essentially a tie. We know the 2000 election was one of the closest in history, so the Labor Day 2000 Gallup poll really hit the nail on the head.

The Labor day Gallup poll has predicted 13 of the past 17 elections. Two of the elections the labor day gallup poll failed to predict were actually within the margin of error, meaning a close election that could go either way. Barring those two elections, the Gallup labor day poll has a 87% success rate in predicting the election.
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