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View Poll Results: Who will you be voting for, for US President?
Kerry 171 66.02%
Bush 74 28.57%
None. I'm a loser and won't vote. 4 1.54%
Other. I'm a loser too and would prefer to waste my vote on someone else in this tight race. 3 1.16%
Undecided between Bush and Kerry. 7 2.70%
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Old 08-21-2004, 02:52 PM   #61
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I really don't care what the Pew Poll is saying these days, considering the fact that the election is more than two months off. There's the RNC next week, then the debates, and only then the election. The Pew Poll does show that Kerry is leading Bush 51% to 45% in the Catholic community. The U.S. is 28% Catholic.
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Old 08-22-2004, 03:30 AM   #62
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116 votes in the Electoral College will be extraordinarily difficult to make up in the next 3 months, what with the extremely vast majority of voters already decided.
Well, now that Bush is only 37 electoral votes from victory in this electoral-vote.com results and the start of the Republican convention is not for another week, what do you have to say about it being extraordinarily difficult to make up such ground?

Also note that the number of states that are voting strongly for Bush, results in 142 votes. Kerry's strong vote catagory only gives him 87. Another bad trend for Kerry is that 153 of his electoral votes are only going "barely" for him according to electoral-vote.com.

With Kerry's previous position have already fallen so far down hill in electoral-vote.com, it will be interesting to see what the results look like following the 4 day Republican convention in New York City.

If electoral-vote.com is correct, this election is shaping up to be the closest election in history, unless of course the Republicans succeed in getting a normal bounce from their convention which the Democrats failed to get for Kerry.

For those still claiming there was a Kerry bounce, where is it? I can't believe Bush is only behind by 3 points in California now!
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Old 08-22-2004, 12:26 PM   #63
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One tricky thing about polls is that they don't really tell how much support is "soft", or potentially transient in nature, and how much of it is "hard", which means it's more or less permanent. Voter X may be "leaning" toward one candidate but hasn't ruled out changing their vote before the election. They may tell a pollster that they are going to vote for Candidate X, and then change their mind. There has been controversy this year over how much of the electorate is "soft" and how much of it is "hard". Another factor is how they choose "likely voters". There's quite a bit of controversy over this as well. There is so much discrepancy between the various polls that it's hard for me to trust any of them.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:46 AM   #64
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i was undecided until kerry spoke in nevada and addressed the issue of yucca mountain.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:24 PM   #65
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Does anyone here know how the election would be decided if there was an electoral tie Bush 269 to Kerry 269? This is technically possible as there are only 538 available electoral votes.
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In case of a tie, the vote goes to the House of Representatives.
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Old 08-24-2004, 09:55 PM   #67
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This is Amazing! We now have 25 people here at FYM voting for George Bush. Just over 30%!
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Old 08-24-2004, 11:00 PM   #68
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I think that, come November, I'm going to vote for Bush just to throw Sting off a bit.










































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Old 08-25-2004, 02:07 PM   #69
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You guys can make all the predictions you want, but Bush will win in November. After all, his side controls most of the election machinery.

The corporations spend a lot of time and money getting their guy in office. Do you really think they're going to just hand it over?
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Have you missed Kerry's fundraising machine? There are plenty of corporations, unions and trial lawyers looking for control as well....
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I think cydewaze was referring to companies like Diebold.

Anyway, a new poll out from that liberal rag The Economist:
http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/YouGovH.pdfl
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Was no one going to tell me that I screwed up the link?

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/YouGovH.pdf
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Kerry Raised $233 Million, Most Ever for a Democrat

Old myths fade away.....
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From July 24th

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jul23.html

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To understand the Kerry money machine, The Washington Post interviewed many of his chief fundraisers, campaign and party officials, political scientists, and donors themselves. It reviewed studies by watchdog groups and campaign finance Web sites, including the Center for Responsive Politics, Public Citizen and PoliticalMoneyLine. It also closely analyzed the background and contribution patterns of the chief fundraisers for Kerry -- the 263 campaign vice chairs who have collected at least $100,000 for his candidacy.

The analysis shows:

Lawyers, especially trial lawyers, are the engine of the Kerry fundraising operation. Lawyers and law firms have given more money to Kerry, $12 million, than any other sector. One out of four of Kerry's big-dollar fundraisers is a lawyer, and one out of 10 is an attorney for plaintiffs in personal injury, medical malpractice or other lawsuits seeking damages.

Much of the seed money for the Kerry presidential campaign was collected through donors to his Senate campaigns, including lobbyists with interests before two of the Senate committees on which Kerry serves: the Finance Committee and the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee.

Fueling Kerry's money surge havebeen credit card collections on the Internet, a technique pioneered by his onetime rival Howard Dean in 2003 but used with even greater success this year by the presumptive Democratic nominee. Kerry has been raising more than $10 million a month on the Internet, for a total of more than $65 million, compared with $8.7 million for Bush in the past year, according to officials with both campaigns.

Kerry appears to have succeeded in creating a new class of donors for the Democratic Party. Dozens of his fundraisers are relative neophytes in big-money politics and have not been active in making their own contributions. A review of federal campaign contributions of the big Kerry fundraisers shows that one-third of them have not made more than $20,000 in campaign contributions since 1990.

Kerry's donor base is overwhelmingly bicoastal. Almost half of the big-money fundraisers hail from either California or New York. Seventeen of the fundraisers are from Kerry's home of Massachusetts. Kerry has substantially outraised Bush in California and New York, $39.7 million to $28.5 million; Bush has crushed the Democrat in Florida and Texas, $36 million to $8 million.
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You call Kerrys presidential fundraising good, the man raised 500 million just by saying I do!
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