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Old 11-03-2004, 12:00 AM   #16
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You may want to check out MEMRI, they run broadcasts from the Arab world on such topics and it can adequately demonstrate what types of propaganda can drive such brutal crimes. It provides context and may help to understand where these violent groups are coming from.

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Old 11-04-2004, 05:21 PM   #17
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[quote] There’s something for everyone: hatred of non-Muslims, hatred of fellow Muslims who are not Muslim enough, hatred of Jews, hatred of Americans, of Europe, of the Netherlands...

They’re a fun bunch, for sure.

I guess we’re at war then.

(Oh, by the way, there’s also a part about leaving pregnant camels at an unspecified location. No, I don’t get it either. An Ozzie mate suggested this would be something a father camel could do before running off to the desert whilst screaming really loudly. I guess I’m just not cut out for Jihadi hermeneutics.)[/qupte]
This not was stuck to the body with a knife - I am not 95% sure that this was not the work of zionists (that is a joke about one Saudi Official right there).

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Dutch stabbing suspect 'terrorist'

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) -- The killers of an outspoken Dutch filmmaker threatened his scriptwriter -- a politician who renounced Islam and has criticized its customs -- in a letter that was pinned to the victim's body with a knife.

Authorities have arrested nine suspected Muslim extremists in connection with Tuesday's shooting and stabbing of Theo van Gogh and are looking into possible links between the suspects and foreign terrorist groups.

Prosecutors on Friday said they considered the crime an act of terrorism and would try the chief suspect -- identified as Mohammed B. -- as a terrorist.
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:09 AM   #19
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I truly hope for the safety of Hirsi Ali - she is a very corageous woman.

Here is the proper partial transcript.
Since your entry into Dutch politics you have been constantly engaged to terrorize Muslims and Islam with your statements. You're not the first, nor the last to have joined the crusade against Islam.

Since you are blinded by the burning unbelief that rages in you, you are not able to see that you are just a tool in the hands of the real enemies of Islam

I would like to start with your proposal to have Muslims tested on their ideology when they apply for a job. Your proposal is very interesting especially since it reveals the rotten face of your political masters.

It's a fact that Dutch politics is dominated by many Jews, themselves a product of Talmud institutions, the same applies to your party members.

What do you think of the fact that the current mayor of Amsterdam adheres to an ideology that allows Jews to lie to non-Jews?

(Note: Amsterdam's current mayor, Job Cohen is Jewish)

Your actions betray your cowardly courage that you use in getting attention for your struggle. You have the cowardly courage to ask Muslim children at a school to make a choice between their Creator and the constitution.

You have used the answer of the pure young souls to make up arguments to justify your crusade. With all these hostilities you have unleashed a boomerang and it will only be a matter of time before that boomerang will seal your faith.

I challenge you with this letter to proof that you're right. There's not a lot that you have to do Mrs. Hirsi Ali, wish for death if you really think you're right.

I know for sure that you, Oh America will go under;
I know for sure that you, Oh Europe will go under;
I know for sure that you, Oh Holland, will go under;
I know for sure that you, Oh Hirsi Ali, will go under;
I know for sure that you, Oh unbelieving fundamentalist, will go under.
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:12 AM   #20
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The transcript is incomplete though, the letter consisted of five pages.
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Yeah, I just read the full letter (and the goodbye letter the murderer had on his body), they're scary.

BTW, some more background on the impact in the Netherlands can be found in this article in The Economist:

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Scary stuff if you ask me!

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