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Old 11-15-2004, 04:15 PM   #1
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Bush nominates Condi for Sec. of State

Just heard it on CNN.


Let the debate begin!
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Old 11-15-2004, 04:40 PM   #2
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i'm not sure, but i don't think i like her. this shouldn't surprise anyone though.
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oh gawd. I didn't think it could get worse but it just did. let's see....

What was the name of that report?
Rice: I believe it was "Bin Laden Determined to Strike the U.S."

And that didn't give you any clues that there may be a problem? That didn't warn you to watch out? Beef us security or something?Make sure Ashcroft doesn't cut terrorism funds? Condi's head should have rolled for the NSA missing something that big and yet she's now being promoted.
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Old 11-15-2004, 04:56 PM   #4
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I think Condi is a highly intelligent woman. She gets a bad rap from a lot of liberals because she's a black right winger.
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She gets a bad rap from a lot of liberals because she's a black right winger.
She is actually not all that popular among the right in Washington either, and so either everyone's racist or maybe the woman wasn't that competent at her previous position.
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I think that there is a strong good old boys network through Washington, the State and CIA are built off it.
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the woman is BRILLIANT. she graduated from HS when she was 15!!!! i was still a freshman at 15!!! just never allow that woman to wear shorts.......i saw her in shorts at crawford once and it was kind of scary actually.

anyway i'll be interested to see how she handles that position. it's more public than the NSA.
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crys incompetence there

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the woman is BRILLIANT. she graduated from HS when she was 15!!!! i was still a freshman at 15!!! anyway i'll be interested to see how she handles that position. it's more public than the NSA.
that maybe so, but she and a whole host of others in Team Bush were fucking incompetant...when it came to 9-11.

they did not want to take, listen to a single warning that various officials in the Clinton Admin were trying to point out.

in various intell from 2 years back in 1999 it said terrorists intended to hijack planes, mash them into buildings- pentigon, and certain buildings in Lower Manhattan were flately stated in reports.

ANd in the G7/8 conference of JULY 2001 were Bush- an Airman- walked or was driven by anti-aircraft guns ringed around the conference site.

don'tcha think SOMEBODY could have put the words 'terrorists', 'planes', 'hijack' 'smash into building' 'LOWER MAHATTAN' togehter in a coherernt thought pattern POSSIBILTY and tried to do something more than they <uhum> 'did'? Especially with the Aug 6th 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing memo!

I mean Bush knew a plane had accidentally hit one of the trade towers BEFOREW he went into that school.

Don't you think that maybe he'd be worried enough, curious enough that sucha a 'strikingly' UNUSUAL incident might [U]warrent a bit of attention, EVEN as an Accident to the tallest building in the USA[/'U] [fooled ya, bet some of you thot I was gonna say 'the World', now dija?] housing approxiamatelt 20- 25,000 people a day?!

Just a call in his Prez Limo to then Mayor Rudy or a top aide, or Mahattan borrough President, maybe? Somebody?? Huh???!

"This is the President calling. This looks really bad. Is there any thing you think we could help you with?"
Not a frigging peep!

I am a born bred NYC'er. I had 3 near misses in my circles of friends/family. I have a dear friend who's relative {a policeman]dug thru the horror by the 2nd or third day....body parts and all. <shiver> I have every right to occasionally rant about this atrocity to my people & hometown.

The operative word being Occasionally !

A relative of my own who went down to the site as a NYFD firewarden [even as a warden he had to do all the basic training a firefighter had to do] also saw thing no one should ever have to see.

Though I was in Brooklyn as it happened, and I didn't even know it at the time- because i was running around to leave the house and for a rare occasion did NOT turn on my walkman as I usually did while getting ready.....radio I can listen to, I never put on TV in the morning unless some thing extroidinarily wonderful was happening or something extroidinarally BAD happened-- I saw the cloud of destruction just after it doubled as the North Tower fell, becuase it was higher than the closer and mid- far Downtown Brooklyn buildings that blocked my view of the towers. I could see on nice days the top 10 stories from my by the subway I often take going into Manhatten

Some day Karma or some kind of findings and then court justice will 'reward' this Incompitency.....for maybe if Busho had read or remembered that Aug 6th memo at least might have saved The Pentagon Atrocity from happening, if not my sweet, dear City.

and questions over.
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Libs have always been threatened by Condi simply because she is a black female. It shuts down their arguement that conservatives are racist, sexist, etc.
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Libs have always been threatened by Condi simply because she is a black female. It shuts down their arguement that conservatives are racist, sexist, etc.
there ARE a whole bunch of racist Conservatives & neo-cons out there. Just go read some of the shit that is deposited every day in some of those white powertype sites.

Yes and Liberals too can be rascist, though in them it's sometimes more hidden, or even unconcious or sometimes less than in some conservatives.
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Racism is racism, it would be very dumb to try and lump it all with mild political persuasion. That previous post was a profoundly unsettling one, there was a failure on 9.11 but it would be wrong to dump it all on this administration.
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the woman is BRILLIANT. she graduated from HS when she was 15!!!!
That does not mean she is competent at her job.

There is quite a difference between being an academic achiever (with a high IQ) and common sense and success in the real world.

I work every day with PhDs from the world's best institutions. They are incredibly intelligent people, and a good majority lack the sort of social skills that any car mechanic has. A good half of them live in a world of academia, completely removed from reality, unable to relate to colleagues or employees or students.

Condi's brilliance was not exhibited in her position as NSA.
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Racism is racism, it would be very dumb to try and lump it all with mild political persuasion. That previous post was a profoundly unsettling one, there was a failure on 9.11 but it would be wrong to dump it all on this administration.
you can dump a whole lot on Temn Bush

If you read some of the footnotes in the 9-11 report it shows more than what the genreal report says.

and its been said that part 2 of it {the report] was held back because of the election, because it's more sepcific on peoples failure.
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Old 11-15-2004, 07:23 PM   #14
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You are exactly right, if I were to read some of the footnotes then I could blame most of it on the Bush administration, of course I could also read the rest and understand that there were other failures and ultimately fixing the problems are better than blame.
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That does not mean she is competent at her job.

There is quite a difference between being an academic achiever
Amen

she is qualified for the Bush Admin because she has an Oil Tanker named after her.
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