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Old 09-07-2005, 07:54 AM   #196
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Did Bush turn it down? Can't Chavez send it anyway? I'm still waiting for cheaper prices at my local Citgo.
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Bush likely turned down the oil from Chavez, due to the conditions he placed on it. Plus, lest we forget, our relations with Venezuela have been tense, and Chavez might be doing this to try and humiliate the U.S. and boost his own standing. I doubt it had anything to do with the offer of oil itself.

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I think Bush is stupid to turn down the oil from Venezuela, but what's new?
I think it´s more than stupid, it is irresponsible.

All Americans are doing threads with WAAAAH the gas is so damn expensive I pay so-and-so much per gallon - and at the same time the President refuses to cheapen? Refuses to take gas for free?

Wow, if I was an American, this would certainly enrage me beyond belief. but well, Bush can surely afford expensive gas, and rich Americans too. Like always, it´s the poor who suffer most.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:03 AM   #199
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Bush likely turned down the oil from Chavez, due to the conditions he placed on it. Plus, lest we forget, our relations with Venezuela have been tense, and Chavez might be doing this to try and humiliate the U.S. and boost his own standing. I doubt it had anything to do with the offer of oil itself.

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Which conditions?

Plus, I think it´s the administrations relations to Chavez, not the average poor American relations.

What kind of banana republic is the United States if you have fear from being humiliated by Chavez?

What exactly is your problem? You are begging for cheaper gas and waiting for hours at gas stations and post pictures of how high the prices are and bitch about it as if it was a major problem, and then you tell me Americans would be humiliated if it was cheaper? Hypo.
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Did Bush turn it down? Can't Chavez send it anyway? I'm still waiting for cheaper prices at my local Citgo.
Yes, Bush turned it down - apparently because he is angry with Chavez for calling him a "cowboy".

Poor Americans (and rich alike) pay the double for every gallon because their President is not comfortable with rhetorics. Nice.
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Which conditions?
if anything i guess it could be some sort of non-aggression pact...that's just speculation though. bush would never compromise his god given right to invade a sovereign nation.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:19 AM   #202
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Yes, Bush turned it down - apparently because he is angry with Chavez for calling him a "cowboy".

Poor Americans (and rich alike) pay the double for every gallon because their President is not comfortable with rhetorics. Nice.
I've been searching the news for a report of Bush's turning down the oil. Nothing yet.

Do you have a link?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:26 AM   #203
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I've been searching the news for a report of Bush's turning down the oil. Nothing yet.

Do you have a link?
I'm not sure if this is the same story but here is a link to an article in the Guardian called Bush rejects Chavez aid
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:42 AM   #204
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I've been searching the news for a report of Bush's turning down the oil. Nothing yet.

Do you have a link?
There was an article in the Guardian this morning, but apparently they took it off their website (this is one of the reasons I don´t like the Guardian anymore like I used to - they write more rhetoric BS than a decade ago, when their research was better and they didn´t fall into this inappropriate blah style. Still it is a good source of information though).

However, they put a paragraph of this into another article which you can read at http://www.guardian.co.uk/leaders/st...564036,00.html
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ok, Sula has found it for me.
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Jesse Jackson says Bush declined disaster assistance.

I'd hate to see a whole lot of rhetoric without knowing the facts behind the discussions (if they occurred).
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Well, why would the Bush administration accept aid from Chavez when instead he, through FEMA, is promoting everyone to give money to Pat Robertson's crooked Operation Blessing instead?
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Well, why would the Bush administration accept aid from Chavez when instead he, through FEMA, is promoting everyone to give money to Pat Robertson's crooked Operation Blessing instead?
Operation Blessing is included with the following list of agencies:

American Red Cross
1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English,
1-800-257-7575 Spanish;

America’s Second Harvest
1-800-344-8070

Humane Society of the United States
1-888-259-5431

Operation Blessing
1-800-436-6348

United Jewish Communities
1-877-277-2477

Donate Cash and/or Volunteer

Adventist Community Services
1-800-381-7171

B'nai B'rith International
1-888-388-4224

Catholic Charities, USA
1-800-919-9338

Christian Disaster Response
941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554

Christian Reformed World Relief Committee
1-800-848-5818

Church World Service
1-800-297-1516

Convoy of Hope
417-823-8998

Corporation for National and Community Service Disaster Relief Fund
(202) 606-6718

Disaster Psychiatry Outreach
1-212-598-9995

Feed the Children
1-800-525-7575

Lutheran Disaster Response
800-638-3522

Mennonite Disaster Service
717-859-2210

Nazarene Disaster Response
888-256-5886

Presbyterian Disaster Assistance
800-872-3283

Salvation Army
1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769)

Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief
1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440

UJA Federation of New York
212 836-1880

Union for Reform Judaism

United Methodist Committee on Relief
1-800-554-8583


And they are NOT on FEMA's primary list of National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster listed below:

• (1) Support Our Members
• (2) National VOAD Members • Adventist Community Services
• America's Second Harvest • American Baptist Men USA
• American Disaster Reserve • American Radio Relay League, Inc. (ARRL)
• American Red Cross • Ananda Marga Universal Relief Team (AMURT)
• Catholic Charities USA • Center for International Disaster Information (formerly Volunteers in Technical Assistance)
• Christian Disaster Response • Christian Reformed World Relief Committee (CRWRC)
• Church of the Brethren- Emergency Response • Church World Service
• Convoy of Hope • Disaster Psychiatry Outreach
• Episcopal Relief and Development (formerly The Presiding Bishop's Fund for World Relief) • Friends Disaster Service, Inc.
• Humane Society of the United States • International Aid
• International Critical Incident Stress Foundation • International Relief Friendship Foundation (IRFF)
• Lutheran Disaster Response • Mennonite Disaster Service
• Mercy Medical Airlift: National Patient Travel Center • National Emergency Response Team
• National Organization for Victim Assistance • Nazarene Disaster Response
• Northwest Medical Teams International • Presbyterian Church (USA)
• REACT International, Inc. • Society of St. Vincent de Paul
• Southern Baptist Convention • The Points of Light Foundation
• The Salvation Army • United Church of Christ - Wider Church Ministries
• United Jewish Communities • United Methodist Committee on Relief
• United Way of America • Volunteers of America
• World Vision

It doesn't really look to me like Bush is specifically promoting it over any other organization.

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Did Bush turn it down? Can't Chavez send it anyway? I'm still waiting for cheaper prices at my local Citgo.
No, sorry.

That oil best be coming to socialist Canookia!
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:41 PM   #210
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crooked Operation Blessing instead?
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