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Old 09-07-2004, 02:22 PM   #1
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Assault Weapons Ban Expires Next Week

Well, our President says Americans are safer now..I guess we'll be even more safe once this is allowed to expire

Here is some info I received in an e-mail-yes, it is from moveon.org

In 2000, President Bush campaigned on a promise to renew the ban. Yet today, after we've endured mass murders like Columbine and terrorists have bought assault weapons on American soil, President Bush is letting the ban expire.

Bush is jeopardizing our safety for the sake of an endorsement from the National Rifle Association. As reported in the newspaper The Hill, "The National Rifle Association's (NRA) endorsement of Bush is on hold until after the ban expires."[1]

Since 1994, the assault weapons ban has taken the deadliest military- style weapons off our streets, dramatically cutting their use in crimes by 66 percent, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, and reducing the murder rates of police officers and the public.

This is not a partisan issue -- the assault weapons ban was supported by Presidents Reagan, Ford, Carter, and Clinton, and by Republicans Tom Ridge and Rudy Giuliani. The ban is supported by 74 percent of American voters, by Republicans and Democrats on the committees that investigated 9/11, and by virtually every police officers' association including the Major Cities Chiefs Association, International Brotherhood of Police Officers , National Fraternal Order of Police (FOP), National Black Police Association, and Hispanic American Police Command Officers Association.

Yet President Bush is letting the ban expire, as he refuses to call on Congress to send him the ban renewal for his signature.

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[1] The Hill, "Gun makers get ready for big demand," September 2, 2004


If anyone's interested, you can sign a petition at moveon.org, or call the White House at 1- 202-456-1111

or of course your Reps and Senators
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In 2000, President Bush campaigned on a promise to renew the ban. Yet today, after we've endured mass murders like Columbine and terrorists have bought assault weapons on American soil, President Bush is letting the ban expire
Don't you just hate flip-floppers?
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Dont we just hate killing machines
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Do you have a non-partisian source for the information?
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Do you have a non-partisian source for the information?
I did a quick search nbc. I'm not sure if any of these are considered non-partisian:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...-ourview_x.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in641730.shtml

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/...ials-headlines
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Thank you, BostonAnne!

One thing that has always amazed me is that the same people who rant and rave the most about terrorists in the world are the same people who want to see the instruments that these people use (assault weapons) freely able for almost anyone to purchase!

Somehow, that doesn't make sense to me.

I fully support a peaceful world, and history tells me that we won't have one with increased violence in the world.


Violence is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding; it seeks to annihilate rather than to convert.

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Well, I don't believe The Hill is an unbiased source, but as far as I know the rest of that info in the e-mail is accurate

It's deeply troubling to me if Bush is failing to extend the ban in order to gain NRA support. Only he could answer that allegation of course, but I'm not holding my breath..
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Well the Republican party members need the Assault Weapons so that they can follow Mr Bush to find ways to attack America and prepare for the terror attack if Mr. Bush gets unemployed in the next months
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Well the Republican party members need the Assault Weapons so that they can follow Mr Bush to find ways to attack America and prepare for the terror attack if Mr. Bush gets unemployed in the next months
I won't say I haven't thought this, either. Especially after hearing on the radio today that it's been charged against Kerry that if he wins, America will be attacked by terrorists again. I don't have any source besides the radio and frankly don't care to look, but it doesn't surprise me if it's true the "prophecy" is out there.
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Placing even more dangerous guns on the streets...Yay! Thanks Bush for making this a safer country.
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ABC News also reported the story last night that the NRA will endorse Bush after the ban expires on Monday

They also talked about how Democrats won't push for the renewal because they are so afraid of the political power of the NRA

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Re: Assault Weapons Ban Expires Next Week

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[1] The Hill, "Gun makers get ready for big demand," September 2, 2004


If anyone's interested, you can sign a petition at moveon.org, or call the White House at 1- 202-456-1111

or of course your Reps and Senators [/B]
Oh boy, can't wait

How can the NRA have so much political power? That doesn't seem right.

We're getting down to the wire here.
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How can the NRA have so much political power? That doesn't seem right.

Answer: $$$

I pray one day my children will have politicians with backbones.
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Answer: $$$

I pray one day my children will have politicians with backbones.
Where do you think the NRA gets its money? It is not a big corporation.


It comes from members - people who enjoy owning and using a gun. People who also vote.
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Do they really have to own and use assault weapons?

Like someone mentioned in that ABC News piece, the irony is that more assault weapons could be on the street in the US after this ban is allowed to expire than are in the hands of the insurgents in Iraq.

There was a mother in the same ABC piece last night who lost her son to a person who shot him w/ an assault weapon. She was holding his picture and wondering how the President could allow this ban to expire.
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