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Old 09-12-2004, 05:12 PM   #46
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Why do people in the USA want assault weapons? To shoot each other with. At least thats how it looks from here.
That's the question of the day - why? Why do people need assault weapons? The answer to me is no GOOD reason.

And our government is stepping back and allowing this insanity. I'm so disgusted.
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Old 09-12-2004, 05:12 PM   #47
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Are people really that anxious to start shooting?
Exactly. And what do you shoot with one besides another person?
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Why do people in the USA want to shoot people? Most of the rest of the fed world has little interest in killing their kin.

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Old 09-12-2004, 05:27 PM   #49
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Why do people in the USA want to shoot people? Most of the rest of the fed world has little interest in killing their kin.

According to most people who want these weapons, they are used for "protecting life and property" or because "we have a constitutional right to bear ams"

I guess some people feel we need to be able to pump a burglar with a few hundred bullets rather than one
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It so disgusts me the way the NRA calls the ban "bogus legislation". It frightens me too. They say "well its a hassle for the law abiding citizens." And again tell me, why would "law abiding citizens" WANT these things??? They don't need them!!!! Ugh. Our govt. needs, if i must quote Toby Keith, "a boot in their ass".
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I guess some people feel we need to be able to pump a burglar with a few hundred bullets rather than one
Im getting off topic here, but why do people in the USA feel the need to shoot a burglar even once?

This is actually a topic that truely mystifies me.
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oops sorry, I didnt mean to stop the thread. I will shut up now. Please ignore my posts

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Im getting off topic here, but why do people in the USA feel the need to shoot a burglar even once?

This is actually a topic that truely mystifies me.
There are two issues here. One is history. The founding fathers gave us the second amendment so we could defend ourselves if attacked by outside forces, such as the British in that case. In those days, the civilian militia won the fight against the British army so it seemed only natural.

Why do people need to shoot others? I know I'm opening a can of worms here BUT I would recommend Michael Moore's movie "Bowling for Columbine". Some of the data is fuzzy, some of it may be overly dramatic, but overall I believe his theory is correct. We live in a society that is afraid -- everything is FEAR here. In exchange, people feel they should use guns to defend themselves. Although while I don't have any statistics, i would assume most gun shots in homes are not to get intruders out but accidental shootings of those inside.

that being said, do I need to have an AK-47 to defend myself? no. and it's scary to have those back on the streets. I have no idea what this administration is thinking.
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I have seen Bowling For Columbine, but what I dont understand is if there is a burglar in the house why is there the need to shoot them. Why not abandon your possessions and run?

Why do people in the USA have this fear?

If its a greed related fear then many other countries have a standard of living just as high as the USA - including Australia and Denmark.

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I wish I could answer that but I don't know. I would never have a gun in my house to protect me. I've lived in Brooklyn, NY for almost four years and the place has a bad reputation for crime even though I live in a safe, great neighborhood. That being said, I was a young woman living alone and I armed my security alarm every night before going to bed. and ya know what? I felt safer with that than with a gun under my bed.
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It would be hard to explain unless you knew someone who was interested in guns.

My college roommate's family owned numerous guns of all calibers. They simply enjoyed firing the guns, target shooting and hunting. They are law abiding citizens and by no means a danger to society.

The number and variety of guns was well beyond what they "needed", but I doubt we would want the same evaluation for our hobbies.
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I have seen Bowling For Columbine, but what I dont understand is if there is a burglar in the house why is there the need to shoot them. Why not abandon your possessions and run?

Why do people in the USA have this fear?

If its a greed related fear then many other countries have a standard of living just as high as the USA - including Australia and Denmark.


I'll go out on a limb and suggest that most people who keep a gun for protection don't want to shoot a burglar but hope the gun will scare one away.

And yes, unfortunately, we do live in a climate of fear in the US...we've had things like the Manson family murders and the Night Stalker serial killer pounded into our brains by the media. Statistically speaking, most of us will never experience a psychotic killer breaking into our homes while we sleep, but the fear of something like that happening is enough to convince some people they need a gun to protect themselves.

We've also been told time and time again that the criminals are better armed than the police, which is probably true.

So I don't think its really a fear due to greed as in losing possessions to a thief, its more a fear of a stranger coming into your home and not knowing his/her true intention.
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I wish I could answer that but I don't know. I would never have a gun in my house to protect me. I've lived in Brooklyn, NY for almost four years and the place has a bad reputation for crime even though I live in a safe, great neighborhood. That being said, I was a young woman living alone and I armed my security alarm every night before going to bed. and ya know what? I felt safer with that than with a gun under my bed.

I would agree that an alarm would make me feel safer than a gun.

I am married to a retired cop who rated as an expert marksman on his last test at the firing range when he renewed his concealed weapon permit. That said, he refuses to keep a gun in the house and has decided not to own one at all. He knows better than anyone that a homeowner who keeps a gun in the house actually has a fairly good chance of being hurt by his own gun, either in an accident or by an intruder taking it away from him/her and using it against them.

If you have kids, you aren't supposed to keep a loaded gun laying around and if you do, its suggested that you keep a trigger lock on it...how are you supposed to either load your gun or unlock it after you've noticed someone is in your house? Or if you have it locked up in gun safe, how do you get to it?

I just hate guns period...and I don't understand a collector's fascination, especially people who desire assault weapons.
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NBC, I don't think your argument holds water here. I mean, I collect postcards. Do I need, let's say, the 307th postcard in my collection? No, certainly not. But could the 307th postcard spray someone--intruder or innocent person--with hundreds of bullets and give them an incredibly painful and gruesome death?

Believe me, I'm not all that into gun control--I like the Bill of Rights, even the 2nd Amendment. I see nothing wrong with a law-abiding citizen having a couple of guns for target shooting, hunting, or self-defense. I personally don't have a gun and am not interested in owning one, but I support people's rights to use, store, and own guns safely.

These assault weapons, however, have zero purpose beyond killing people. It's not like you could take your AK-47 down to the target range. There is no reason for any ordinary person to have one in his or her home when a simple pistol or rifle would suffice for the aforementioned purposes.
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I am a terrorist and i can buy my kalasnikov legaly now.

I heard that 70% of the us is against ending the ban. Are you shure that you life in a democratic land, why is a loby like the NRA so powerfull
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