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Old 03-26-2003, 09:06 PM   #121
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Why do you take it to be insulting? Did you make up the figures? Did you write that call to protest yourself? If so, I apologize for the way I worded it. I thought you copied and pasted it from somewhere. If you did write it, maybe you should learn how to get your point across without baseless incindiary statements like
"Bush Administration is intending to slaughter tens of thousands of Iraqi people". I find statements like that insulting.

You said it may not be as a direct result fo our bombing, but the call to protest certainly attributes it directly to the American use of violence..."Slaughtering tens of thousands" doesn't excatly sound like it's talking about starvation.

The starvation isn't even our fault, either. Saddam Hussein has access to food..he could have fed his people all of these years and chose not to, because that's one way to keep them under his thumb. Iraq was an EXTREMELY wealthy country till he took over.


I just want to say welcome back. My name is Matt. I wish I had said what was on my mind as well as you did!

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Old 03-26-2003, 09:12 PM   #122
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Yes it is cut and pasted.
And it is incineratory, but that's what they wrote. I should have edited that part. I was just informing about the rally. I don't agree with everything each speaker or person helping to put on the rally says.

Actually after a decade or more under Sadaam and while he was fighting Iran, Iraq was wealthy. It wasn't until sanctions happened that they began to starve. I'm not stating he didn't cause more suffering to his people, while building palaces ect.

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It wasn't until sanctions happened that they began to starve.
NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!

I will be back with facts and figures tomorrow.
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Anti-war protesters are going too far

While the majority of those who are anti-war are not causing any sort of disruption and are quietly and peacefuly disenting, there is a small but very vocal fragment of these anti-war protesters who are causing huge problems in many major cities. there is a protest planned for tommorow, 3/27, here in new york that absolutely sickens me. their plan is to have "surprise" protests with the main goal of disrupting traffic by lying down hand-in-hand in the middle of busy intersections, much like what was seen in san francisco a few days ago. this is going too far. a person's right to protest is one thing, using that protest to create a logistical nightmare for the city, putting themselves, the cops and millions of innocent bistanders in jeopardy. nyc has a population of 8.5 million, 2.5 million of whom live in manhattan. durring an average workday the population of manhattan baloons to over 5 million. a friend of mine who's an emt in manhattan says they get an average of 6-7 calls for people having heartattacks a day. now let's say some old lady on 81st and york has a heartattack tommorow... but these protesters just happened to pick a nearby intersection as one of their places to have a protest, 'causing gridlock in the area. the delay causes the ambulance to not get to the woman in time. and that's just one life... what happens if there's a terrorist attack somewhere in manhattan while these people are blocking intersections and causing gridlock? then what? one of the miracles of 9/11, why only 3,000 died, is because of the fast action and response by the policemen and firemen. that sounds horrific to say... only 3000... but the towers had a capacity of 50,000 people. they were about half full at the time of the attacks. how many more people would have died if the emergency response teams couldn't get there fast enough because there were people causing gridlock in the city? and i'm not even mentioning the fact that these mass gatherings present a rather attractive target themselves for terrorists. i may not agree with what they're saying, but i 100% agree with their right to protest. but having the right to protest does not give you the right to reek havoc throughout a city
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Old 03-27-2003, 01:52 AM   #125
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I have to second that about the protesting thing. I think America's doing the right thing... I'm not sure if I'm all the way pro-war yet, because I hate killing ... and I'm not even pro the death penalty. But what I've heard Hussein do to his people is so horrific it just gotta be stopped, really.
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its pointless protesting about this war, i mean they arent gunna stop fighting now!
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I have sympathy, because we had the same disruption here.....ok, so it was not as serious as this War.........but sure when bands werent allowed down Garvaghy, they used to take certain busy roads, and even during busy traffic time, stand along the road protesting for like an hour or whatever before clearing off.

NOT the same thing and certainly wont be even halfway to what you lot will have.....but still, I know the havoc it causes.....

And for those who risked going through, had their cars bashed.



I agree though, Anti-War protesters should NOT create havoc in such a busy busy city...........I think its possibly because they are getting desperate about the War.........Im pretty sure u all know what I mean by that................
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I am glad to see this thread

After speaking with a woman in my graduate class last night, I am sickened by what some assholes are doing.

She is a Muslim and teaches at an elementary school with a predominate Muslim population.

There are people lining up outside the school grounds and YELLING at the children. Pointing at them and calling THEM terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These young children have enough to deal with I'm sure with their own peers. I can't IMAGINE this, and as I told my friend, it sickens, disgusts & embarrasses me.

IMO, those adults who are yelling at the children are terrorists themselves. SHAME on them.
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Old 03-27-2003, 09:06 AM   #129
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thats too bad.

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that is also too bad.

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I don't have a source for it, but I heard some protesters threw ACID in the face of police officers somewhere-thankfully their face shields protected them.

And exactly-what if God forbid there was a terrorist attack-and also people on a daily basis who need police and/or fire, ambulance services.

These protests could end up costing LIVES, which is supposedly what these protesters are railing against.

And that's DISGUSTING Olive-sadly there will always be a group of sickos like that
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Old 03-27-2003, 10:19 AM   #131
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..........I am now thinking that lots of Protesters are making a war among themselves with the cops....and they are supposed to be against it!
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I don't have a source for it, but I heard some protesters threw ACID in the face of police officers somewhere-thankfully their face shields protected them.

And exactly-what if God forbid there was a terrorist attack-and also people on a daily basis who need police and/or fire, ambulance services.

These protests could end up costing LIVES, which is supposedly what these protesters are railing against.

And that's DISGUSTING Olive-sadly there will always be a group of sickos like that
The acid incident was in my good ol' home state of Oregon. Portland was the city. Also 2 other police officers needed medical attention, trash and trashcans were strewn through the streets, and traffic was blocked and bridge shut down for almost 11 hours because of protestors sitting in the street.
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Re: Anti-war protesters are going too far

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While the majority of those who are anti-war are not causing any sort of disruption and are quietly and peacefuly disenting, there is a small but very vocal fragment of these anti-war protesters who are causing huge problems in many major cities.
There is a small but very powerful fragment of Americans who are causing a great disruption in many cities. Namely the Bush Jr administration and any city in Iraq.

There are always a few who ruin it for the rest of us.
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There is a small but very powerful fragment of Americans who are causing a great disruption in many cities. Namely the Bush Jr administration and any city in Iraq.

thanks for your very thoughtful response to the issue of protesters causing havoc in the cities... and btw, bush is not a junior... different middle name.
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