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Old 08-16-2006, 02:10 PM   #121
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Wouldn't be more honest to simply say "I don't care if you are offended by 'Oh my God' "?


and this is what you are looking for, isn't it?

you're so persecuted.

i detailed, several times, how i would of course modify my speach if you brought it to my attention that you were offended by such a phrase, or any other phrase. anyone would.

but you cannot reasonably expect that i am going to be aware of the possibility to cause offense with such a common phrase as i would be of words like "n*gger" or whatever.

but go ahead -- the world is against you.

soldier on.
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:21 PM   #122
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He used the word THREE TIMES, so if he didn't "know what it meant" he's a bigger moron than we all give him credit for.
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:27 PM   #123
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Again, that is part of the question I'm asking. “Historic intent” may not be someone’s current actual intent. Using this standard, at what point do you allow someone to have a different intent from the intent of other people from a different time? And is the application of this standard based on a clean analysis of a situation, or does it get tainted by other motives (such as politics)?


so you're essentially saying that ignorance (saying that you don't intend the historical intent, which, you know, is part of the definition of the word) is an excuse for using whatever language you wish.

when i go home this weekend, i'm going to call my mother a bitch. when she gets upset, i'm going to say, "hey! that's not my intent! don't assume that i think that you're a bitch just because i call you a bitch! how dare you infer intent on my choice of words! it's up to you to prove that i mean something other than what i said i meant!"

how liberating!

but i promise i won't say "oh my god."
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And according to that article, he's also now claiming he made up the word (the "nickname")
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He keeps changing his story.
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This is disgusting. I'm glad he's not my Senator.
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Liar, liar pants on
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and this is what you are looking for, isn't it?

you're so persecuted.

i detailed, several times, how i would of course modify my speach if you brought it to my attention that you were offended by such a phrase, or any other phrase. anyone would.

but you cannot reasonably expect that i am going to be aware of the possibility to cause offense with such a common phrase as i would be of words like "n*gger" or whatever.

but go ahead -- the world is against you.

soldier on.


Yes, this discussion was all about you - just setting you up here.

The idea that the "right" to be offended is predicated on the person being "terrorized and intimidated" is just BS. It is a standard selectively employed to demonstrate sympathy towards one group and indifference towards another.

You can speak to your mother whatever you want, I'm not sure it helps define what we are discussing here.
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In Pennsylvania, Rendell Running Away

In Pennsylvania's gubernatorial race, a new Quinnipiac poll shows Gov. Ed Rendell (D) way ahead of rival Lynn Swann (R), 57% to 38%.

Says pollster Clay Richards: "Lynn Swann has failed to make any significant headway against Gov. Rendell over the summer, about
a quarter of Republicans are voting for the Democratic Governor."
do some in the GOP just not like people of color?
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Is the sky blue? Is the grass green? Is Pluto a planet? Oops, wrong analogy...I think that's just been sorted out
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Yeah, but what can a football player offer as a politician? I'm actually serious, knowing that I live in a state that has elected two crappy actors as governor.
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Yeah, but what can a football player offer as a politician? I'm actually serious, knowing that I live in a state that has elected two crappy actors as governor.
We've had a former football star as governor twice. He was a terrible governor, I was really happy when a Democrat beat him. Unfortunately, the Democrat turned out to be a crook. He was recently found guilty of corruption charges. I wish we had a few decent politicians in this state.
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I agree.
You know, I really should share this simple axiom (that most of us learned in grade school) with the "easily offended" over there stewing in their mock indignation on the Senator Allen Exposes Himself As A Racist thread.
Naaaaah. Why bother?
Spoken like someone who truly has never been oppressed one day in their life.
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Spoken like someone who truly has never been oppressed one day in their life.
Are we talking about the oppression of poverty, famine, war, slavery, disease, tyranny etcetera...or the "oppression" of being offended?
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Are we talking about the oppression of poverty, famine, war, slavery, disease, tyranny etcetera...or the "oppression" of being offended?
Oppression can be mental or emotional, especially when history shows that slurs can often be associated with violence, mistreatment, or inequality.
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