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Old 09-28-2006, 03:00 PM   #286
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To clarify things: My original post was reporting a significant issue of George Allen calling a man a racial slur on camera, that's it. Since then, the whole campaign has spiraled into accusations of past racist occurences and that is no fault of mine. I would rather they get back to arguing the issues than people digging deeper and deeper into allegations and such.
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I agree, and unfortunately also...
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"I don't think that there's anyone who grew up around the South that hasn't had the word pass through their lips at one time in their life," [Webb] told the Richmond Times-Dispatch on Tuesday.
...I think he's largely right about this (maybe not the "anyone" part), for white people of his generation anyhow. Since I lived in the South during the 70s though, I can't speak for what it was like where Allen grew up.
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I agree with what Webb said too, not for my generation but definitely for my parents generation. My dad used it once when he was a kid then his mom slapped the crap outta him and told him never to use that word again...and he hasn't since. But yes, most people in the south of that generation has unfortunately used that word at one time or another. Sadly my cousin uses that word still...
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I would rather they get back to arguing the issues than people digging deeper and deeper into allegations and such.
Very well said.

Then we agree, it's been a helluva thread (now on page 20) but I would hate to see the race decided by such an inconsequential issue.
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I don't think racism is an inconsequential issue.
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I don't think racism is an inconsequential issue.
I don't either

It's not just about using the n word, that's part of a larger pattern of behavior and attitude. Just like Webb said things that are in general usually part of a larger pattern of sexist behavior and attitude.

Yes this is what politics has come down to these days, but racism and sexism are certainly not "inconsequential". We start to believe that and well, we really will get what we deserve.
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Very well said.

Then we agree, it's been a helluva thread (now on page 20) but I would hate to see the race decided by such an inconsequential issue.
As a white man

I have never suffered from discrimination

so it is inconsequential


but
special rights based on preferences
or
paying people more than the market demands
based on their gender
or
affirmative racism for minorities

is enough to get us white men hopping mad
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Tonight at 7:58 Allen will have a 2 minute speech broadcast at various local stations here in Virginia. The local NBC station here will air it...I'll let y'all know how that goes...

Apparently he wants to address the "hard working people of Virginia". Talk about desperation.
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Apparently he wants to address the "hard working people of Virginia". Talk about desperation.


because a rich Jew from california knows all about hard working Virginians.

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The SNL bit this weekend was priceless.
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The SNL bit this weekend was priceless.




i missed it.

does it live on youtube?
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George Allen has made Virginia a laughing stock. I love Virginia, I have no desire to live anywhere else in America, and I hate being so embarrassed like this as a voter/resident.
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I'm not exactly sure I understand the point of that 2 minute, ad, basically. It was pretty worthless.

You can watch it here: http://www.georgeallen.com/site/c.hg....BEAC/Home.htm
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