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Old 09-23-2003, 09:50 PM   #46
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I am intrigued with the movie and I wondering what to expect.
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Old 09-25-2003, 11:00 PM   #47
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As for the article about Mel's dad, I've heard that the press has been trying to dig up dirt on Mel (even going so far as trying to get his elderly dad to say bad things). This is totally on course if Mel is trying to obey God in making this movie, which I believe he is. When you obey and walk in line with God, you will be attacked spiritually.

As for who's to blame for Christ's death, that question is irrelevant to a large degree in relationship to the Jews. We are all to blame for His death, really. Sin is what brought Him to the cross, not the Jews. The answer is much deeper than the surface. He came to earth through the line of the Jewish people and they rejected Him, as was prophecied. God knew it would happen. Farther than that, everyone who doesn't accept Jesus' sacrifice rejects him. It's on all of our shoulders, in that respect. No blame needs to be laid on the Jews for Jesus' death - praise God He was sent, was crucified, and has made way for our salvation and redemption.
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A nun mentioned this film the other night at a meeting at my church. Some people are very concerned about the "blame" thing. She said basically the same thing you did--that we all sin and our sin is to "blame" for Jesus' death, and at any rate He willingly did it to save us. There shouldn't be a "blame game" for this at all.
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There shouldn't be a "blame game" for this at all.
exactly
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I agree. Getting all caught up in who's to blame is missing the whole point of the crucifixion, and even why Jesus came in the first place.

I wonder why Gibson hasn't brought that up. You know, instead of complaining that people think the film would inspire anti-Semitism, why hasn't he come out and say those who think Christ was killed (let alone by the Jews) have Christian teachings all wrong?

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I read that he got a small film company to distribute it, and that it might be out during Lent next year
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Old 11-07-2003, 11:55 AM   #52
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First, subtitles, from what I understand are not necessary due to the fact that the dialogue is very limited...

Second, this movie should be allowed to be made. Just like NWA, or Pulbic Enemy, or gansta rap has a right to be voiced, by the first amendment of the Constitution, this movie has a right to be made. Now, the messages are complete opposites, I acknowledge that fully, and it's true, this is a world issue, not just American, but I still think it should be made in whatever way Gibson wants.

That being said. It is a very dangerous movie, because it will cause feelings of anti-Semitism. To say we all killed Jesus with our sins may or may not be true, but that is just one personal opinion, just as every person's faith is their own individual opinion. So people will, inevitably blame Judaism. But I think that this is no different than those who viewed American History X as a pro-neo Nazi movie. That wasn't the message, but there were those who felt it glorified Naziism. Unfortunatly, that is the risk with something like this.

But, this is just my opinion. I am not Jewish, and I am in fact Catholic. Whether I like it or not, my opinions are rooted in a Catholic upbringing.

I often find the Catholic church's policies offensive, and I think they are blind to reality on these types of issues. Check out Jean-Luc Godard's "Hail Mary", a movie banned by the Vatican, probably the most beautiful, realistic, pro faith movie ever made. These types of foolish policies have soured the world to Catholicism, and I think this is what Gibson is experiencing. Someone wrote a book this year (I can't think of the name) discussing the fact that Catholics are the last group left that can be discriminated against, and it is not considered bigotry, or politically incorrect. I think that's true, and that is what Mel Gibson is experiencing.
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What is "Hail Mary" about?

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It is a modern day adaptation of the immaculate conception.
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Here's something i found

http://www.theamericanenterprise.org...cle_detail.asp
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Old 12-19-2003, 09:27 AM   #56
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Re: Here's something i found

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That's very interesting, thanks for posting that

I think Michael Medved is an intelligent, thoughtful critic

I still don't know what to make of this controversy, except to say that it would make me very sad if any Jewish people were legitimately offended by it. I want to believe that Mel Gibson has absolutely no ulterior motives in making this movie.
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Though I have zero respect for Mel Gibson, due to his comments on Bono's "Million Dollar Hotel" movie. This movie might be ok.


I just can stand Mel's disrespect
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Though I have zero respect for Mel Gibson, due to his comments on Bono's "Million Dollar Hotel" movie. This movie might be ok.
:::curious::: What did he say?
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He something like the movie was "boring" just as the movie was coming out
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I started watching Million Dollar Hotel - it was boring.
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