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Old 10-12-2006, 02:41 PM   #256
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Have I anywhere said I haven't forgiven anyone? That doesn't mean he doesn't need to be held responsible for his actions.
So so should comedians, especially when the youth listens to them
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So yes he is a racist. So I am going to now say all comedians are Racist.

You didn't anwer my question since you into forgiving.
That doesn't even make sense.

And yes I answered, it's just in a different post for you added it later.
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So so should comedians, especially when the youth listens to them
Should artist be responsible for what they say to an audience that isn't suppose to be listening?

If something is R, TV-MA, etc I don't think there should be any responsibility to the audience it's not intended for.
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You are calling Mel a Racist over a drunken rant. Why should comedians get away with it???
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You are calling Mel a Racist over a drunken rant. Why should comedians get away with it???


because Mel Gibson wasn't trying to make a point through irony, sarcasm, satire, or humor; Chris Rock et al are.
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Should artist be responsible for what they say to an audience that isn't suppose to be listening?

If something is R, TV-MA, etc I don't think there should be any responsibility to the audience it's not intended for.
Poor Mel Being hounded by the Hounds of Baskerville (of liberal america) where it's ok to make racial slurs if your of another color and are doing it for comedy). A man who was not right in mind and depress gets attacked from all sides.
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because Mel Gibson wasn't trying to make a point through irony, sarcasm, satire, or humor; Chris Rock et al are.
Like I said though he was in a drunken state, and in depression at the time.
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I honestly don´t see Mel doing all the things Hitler did any time soon. So whatever he thinks is really his POV and he can do whatever he wants with it.

All I´m trying to say is that since he´s a public figure that´s why we´ve spent 16 thread pages discussing his personal preferences. Even if you do manage to force Mel to change his views you´ll still have other "anti-semites" in the world that you haven´t heard of because they´re not millionaire actors/directors.

So, yeah, I stick by what I said that you´re blowing this completely out of proportion.
Well for every Mel Gibson, there's at least one private person who is an anti-Semite or a racist. So from that perspective it certainly does matter and that alone makes it worth discussing. And forcing him to change his views is not the point. Racist and anti Semitic and sexist "POV's" certainly do matter to me. And no, he can't "do whatever he wants with it", he can't hate Jewish people and say those things about them. Not very Christian of him, to say the least. He certainly can't act on those beliefs, it's generally frowned upon and in most cases illegal to do so.

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Seems to me I heard that somewhere. It might even be posted at a concentration camp.

And I personally think it's pathetic that Mel Gibson won't own up to his prejudice and prefers instead to blame it on his alcoholism. I would actually have much more respect for him if he would own up to the bigotry rather than using his drinking as a reason, excuse-whatever you want to call it.
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Poor Mel Being hounded by the Hounds of Baskerville (of liberal america) where it's ok to make racial slurs if your of another color and are doing it for comedy). A man who was not right in mind and depress gets attacked from all sides.
Oh this is complete an utter bullshit!!! No one spats out racist, anti-semetic, homophobic etc comments just because they are drunk or depressed.

Unless those feeling are already there.

And liberal America? Come on. I guess it says a lot about conservative America when they don't give a shit about racism.
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And I personally think it's pathetic that Mel Gibson won't own up to his prejudice and prefers instead to blame it on his alcoholism. I would actually have much more respect for him if he would own up to the bigotry rather than using his drinking as a reason, excuse-whatever you want to call it.
Do you Hate Mel Gibson?? Do you go to Comedy Jams and laugh when they make Sexist Jokes, Racial Jokes????


I know I do so does that make me anti-semite, Racist or Sexist.
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Oh this is complete an utter bullshit!!! No one spats out racist, anti-semetic, homophobic etc comments just because they are drunk or depressed.

Unless those feeling are already there.

And liberal America? Come on. I guess it says a lot about conservative America when they don't give a shit about racism.
The only people who give a fuck about racism is people who let it get to them. When I hear someone call me a dirty mexican I just laugh it off and say no I am half Guatemalan. Thats problem with this world. We have turned into a punch of fucking pussies.

And how about you get piss drunk and see what shit you or anyone of you will say.
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Do you Hate Mel Gibson?? Do you go to Comedy Jams and laugh when they make Sexist Jokes, Racial Jokes????

I know I do so does that make me anti-semite, Racist or Sexist.
No I don't hate Mel, I hate anti-Semitism. And no I don't find racist or sexist jokes to be funny. I tend to like humor that isn't at the expense of anyone's religion, race, or gender.
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No I don't hate Mel, I hate anti-Semitism. And no I don't find racist or sexist jokes to be funny. I tend to like humor that isn't at the expense of anyone's religion, race, or gender.
It dosen't matter because he or she could be talking about you.
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It dosen't matter because he or she could be talking about you.
Wha?
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So your against it yet you find it humorous. Is there any scientific fact that says you dont say things when your drunk?
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