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Old 08-04-2006, 10:03 AM   #211
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I really doubt this is true. Wouldn't we have heard of something like that before now?
I agree.... they're just throwing out B.S. now...
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During a grueling nine-month shoot in Veracruz, Mexico, for his film “Apocalypto,” actor Mauricio Amuy reports “The Passion of Christ” director would “scream at the cast” and launch into lengthy sermons detailing “how the Jews were at fault for the killing of Jesus.”
For the record, Gibson’s rep, Alan Nierob, said the actor misunderstood his client.
The last bit indicates that he did say those things - otherwise I'd assume that Mr. Gibsons publicist would simply have denied the story.
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I won't take much hard fact - just rumors and commentary - to complete the picture everyone already has of Gibson.
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The last bit indicates that he did say those things - otherwise I'd assume that Mr. Gibsons publicist would simply have denied the story.
Or maybe, as Gibson's agent said, the actor misunderstood what he did say. No one else has said a thing about the incident. Seems to me that maybe no one understood it to mean what that actor understood it to mean. Maybe it was clear to everyone else that he meant something else. He probably didn't sya anything similar to what he was quoted as saying at all.
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I really doubt this is true. Wouldn't we have heard of something like that before now?
One would think that this would come out in the media. But I don't think they're fabricating.
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This is not an unusual pattern. As soon as clear evidence of a wrongdoing appears, the "it happened to me too" stories surface.
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This is not an unusual pattern. As soon as clear evidence of a wrongdoing appears, the "it happened to me too" stories surface.
I got shot by Dick Cheney.

warning - picture here


of course, we settled out of court

and I am not supposed to talk about it
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Anyway, he says that the Ultra-Orthodox in Israel do not honor Holocaust victims. They believe that because they assimilated into Gentile society, they were "sinners" and deserved what they got. They niether go to Yad Vashem not even stop what they are doing for the 2 minute's silence on Remembrance Days for the Shoah every year. I kid you not....I swear on a stack of Torahs this is true?!?!?
I know ultra-Orthodox Jews who don't even recognize the state of Israel because they don't believe in the Zionist cause or the way the state was established.

So this would not be surprising.
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Star friends rally around Mel Gibson

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html

Does what they say have any merit? Should it?
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Star friends rally around Mel Gibson

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html

Does what they say have any merit? Should it?
Absolutely. They're not liars. I'm forming a more balanced view of Gibson as someone who is struggling with alcoholism and perhaps a difficult father. I still have trouble with his affiliation with the St. Pius X Society (the official name for the Traditionalist Catholics, who, incidentally, have been excommunicated), he's still got to answer for that.
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Mel Gibson is one of the very few people out there who continues to rake in the shekels for an industry that is in crisis these days, So he could probably hang a Hezbollah flag in his front yard at this point and they'd find ways to talk themselves out of it and apologize. Thank God he is not a world leader. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. If it was anybody else there'd be another Fatty Arbucke scandal and the guy would be toast. Period.

I'm sorry, but this is THE one instance when punishment would work better than comapssion. Mel needes to be totally shunned for at least the next 5 yrs. He needs to be on the rev\cieving end of the cruel things he has said, drunk or not. he needs to experience being HURT by cruel words. He needs to suffer., at this poijhnt, in order to repent. He quite simply needs the S%%% scared out of him...at this point, "tough love" and nothing else has worked. has not worked. Having grown up with an alcoholic father and two alcoholic stepfathers, I know the score on this one. When it gets tot his point, there are times when compassion is a wasted effort.

I'm speaking stricly as someone familar with alcoholics--not even in protest of the absolutely INEXCUSABLE things he said.

And BTW, nobody stuck up for Creed's lead singer when he went thorugh the same crap, and that poor guy was not guilty of racist remarks, just offensive and embarrassing behavior. Even his own band deserted him. If Creed was nmaking alot of money and was like U2, people would be falling al over thermselves to try to find ways to "save" Scott Stapp. But they didn't. They rejoiced over his downfall.

It's all reative. All of it. And I'm disgusted that so many of you are starting to fall for the crap.
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Thanks for your insights. I don't know what it's like to live with an alcoholic. I'd imagine it must be hellish.
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http://www.news.com.au/sundayheralds...006023,00.html

"Mel Gibson once had close links to the Australian League of Rights, a Far Right group notorious for its anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial.
The league claims the world is run by a secret society of Jews.

The Hollywood star's foray into Far Right activist politics in Australia occurred in 1987 when he campaigned for a friend, Rob Taylor, who stood unsuccessfully for the northern Victorian federal seat of Indi.

Charles Pinwill, a former Queensland state director of the League of Rights, said he knew Gibson's father, Hutton, and said Gibson was interested in the league's ideas.

"They were never members of the league, no. But we never really recruited members, just support. (Mel and Hutton) were interested in some of our ideas," Mr Pinwill said.

"His dad had politically similar ideas to me. His dad had a well-considered philosophy, he thought things through.

"I knew (Mr Taylor) was a friend of Mel's. Mel's not really a political animal, he's interested in spiritual things."
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If this is true (and I think it probably is) than Mel has had his day.
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Yeah, he's finished.
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