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Massacre at Falluja?

I've read about 8 different collaborations on these events.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates...-2-95-1843.jsp
Inside the fire
Jo Wilding
13 - 4 - 2004


A brave and harrowing report from inside the besieged city of Falluja where ordinary people are trapped in the cross-fire.





After filing this report to openDemocracy.net on 13 April, Jo Wilding returned to Falluja, despite the heavy fighting. There, she was kidnapped. She is now safely back in Baghdad. Watch out for her account of this expereince which we will publish as soon as we have it.

11 April, Falluja

Trucks, oil tankers, tanks are burning on the highway east to Falluja. A stream of boys and men goes to and from a lorry that is not burnt, stripping it bare. We turn onto the back roads through Abu Ghraib, Nuha and Ahrar singing in Arabic, past the vehicles full of people with few possessions heading the other way, past the improvised refreshment posts along the way where boys throw food through the windows into the bus for us and for the people still inside Falluja.


The bus is following a car with the nephew of a local sheikh and a guide who has contacts with the Mujahedin and has cleared this with them. The reason I am on the bus is that a journalist I know turned up at my door at about 11 at night telling me things were desperate in Falluja. He had been bringing out children with their limbs blown off. The US soldiers were going around telling people to leave by dusk or they would be killed, but then when people fled with whatever they could carry, they were stopped at the US military checkpoint on the edge of town and not let out, trapped, watching the sun go down.

He said aid vehicles and the media were being turned away. He said there was some medical aid that needed to go in and there was a better chance of it getting there with foreigners, westerners, to get through the American checkpoints. The rest of the way was secured with the armed groups who control the roads we would travel on. We would take in the medical supplies, see what else we could do to help and then use the bus to bring out people who needed to leave.
Iíll spare you the whole decision making process, the questions we all asked ourselves and each other, and you can spare me the accusations of madness, but what it came down to was this: if I donít do it, who will?

Either way, we arrived in one piece.

We pile the stuff in the corridor and the boxes are torn open straightaway; the blankets most welcomed. It is not a hospital at all but a clinic, a private doctorís surgery treating people free since air strikes destroyed the townís main hospital. Another has been improvised in a car garage. There is no anaesthetic. The blood bags are in a drinks fridge and the doctors warm them up under the hot tap in an unhygienic toilet.

Screaming women come in, praying, slapping their chests and faces. Ummi, mother, one cries. I hold her until Maki, a consultant and acting director of the clinic, brings me to the bed where a child of about ten is lying with a bullet wound to the head. A smaller child is being treated for a similar injury in the next bed. A US sniper, they said, hit them and their grandmother as they left their home to flee Falluja.

The lights go out, the fan stops and in the sudden quiet someone holds up the flame of a cigarette lighter for the doctor to carry on operating by. The electricity to the town has been cut off for days and when the generator runs out of petrol they just have to manage till it comes back on. Dave quickly donates his torch. The children are not going to live.

ďCome,Ē says Maki and ushers me alone into a room where an old woman has just had an abdominal bullet wound stitched up. Another in her leg is being dressed, the bed under her foot soaked with blood, a white flag still clutched in her hand and the same story: ďI was leaving my home to go to Baghdad when I was hit by a US sniper.Ē Some of the town is held by US marines, other parts by the local fighters. These peopleís homes are in the US controlled area and they are adamant that the shooters were US marines.

Snipers are causing not just carnage but also the paralysis of the ambulance and evacuation services. The biggest hospital after the main one was bombed is in US territory and cut off from the clinic by snipers. The ambulance has been repaired four times after bullet damage. Bodies are lying in the streets because no one can go to collect them without being shot.

Some said we were mad to come to Iraq; quite a few said we were completely insane to come to Falluja, and now there are people telling me that getting in the back of the pick-up to go past the snipers and get sick and injured people is the craziest thing they have ever seen. I know, though, that if we donít, no one will.

He is holding a white flag with a red crescent on; I donít know his name. The men we pass wave us on when the driver explains where we are going. The silence is ferocious in the no manís land between the pick-up at the edge of the Mujahedin territory, which has just gone from our sight around the last corner and the marinesí line beyond the next wall; no birds, no music, no indication that anyone is still living Ė until a gate opens opposite and a woman comes out and points.

We edge along to the hole in the wall where we can see the car, spent mortar shells around it. The feet are visible, crossed, in the gutter. I think he is dead already. The snipers are visible too, two of them on the corner of the building. As yet I think they canít see us so we need to let them know we are there.

ďHello,Ē I bellow at the top of my voice. ďCan you hear me?Ē They must. They are about 30 metres from us, maybe less, and itís so still you could hear the flies buzzing at fifty paces. I repeat myself a few times, still without reply, so decide to explain myself a bit more.

ďWe are a medical team. We want to remove this wounded man. Is it OK for us to come out and get him? Can you give us a signal that itís OK?Ē

Iím sure they can hear me but they are still not responding. Maybe they didnít understand it all, so I say the same again. Dave yells too in his US accent. I yell again. Finally I think I hear a shout back. Not sure, I call again.

ďHello.Ē

ďYeah.Ē

ďCan we come out and get him?Ē

ďYeah.Ē

Slowly, our hands up, we go out. The black cloud that rises to greet us carries with it a hot, sour smell. Solidified, his legs are heavy. I leave them to Rana and Dave, our guide lifting under his hips. The Kalashnikov is attached by sticky blood to his hair and hand and we donít want it with us so I put my foot on it as I pick up his shoulders and his blood falls out through the hole in his back. We heave him into the pick-up as best we can and try to outrun the flies.

I suppose he was wearing flip flops because he is barefoot now, no more than 20 years old, in imitation Nike pants and a blue and black striped football shirt with a big 28 on the back. As the orderlies from the clinic pull the young fighter off the pick-up, yellow fluid pours from his mouth and they flip him over, face up, the way into the clinic clearing in front of them, straight up the ramp into the makeshift morgue.

We wash the blood off our hands and get in the ambulance. There are people trapped in the other hospital who need to go to Baghdad. Siren screaming, lights flashing, we huddle on the floor of the ambulance, passports and ID cards held out the windows. We pack it with people, one with his chest taped together and a drip, one on a stretcher, legs jerking violently so I have to hold them down as we wheel him out, lifting him over steps.

The hospital is better able to treat them than the clinic but has not got enough of anything to sort them out properly and the only way to get them to Baghdad is on our bus, which means they have to go to the clinic. We are crammed on the floor of the ambulance in case itís shot at. Nisareen, a female doctor about my age, canít stop a few tears once we are out.

The doctor rushes out to meet me: ďCan you go to fetch a lady? She is pregnant and she is delivering the baby soon.Ē

Azzam is driving, Ahmed in the middle directing him and me by the window, the visible foreigner, the passport. Something scatters across my hand, simultaneous with the crashing of a bullet through the ambulance, some plastic part dislodged, flying through the window.

We stop, turn off the siren, keep the blue light flashing, wait, eyes on the silhouettes of men in US marine uniforms on the corners of the buildings. Several shots come. We duck, get as low as possible and I can see tiny red lights whipping past the window, past my head. Some, itís hard to tell, are hitting the ambulance. I start singing. What else do you do when someoneís shooting at you? A tyre bursts with an enormous noise and a jerk of the vehicle.

I am outraged. We are trying to get to a woman who is giving birth without any medical attention, without electricity, in a city under siege, in a clearly marked ambulance, and you are shooting at us. How dare you?

How dare you?

Azzam grabs the gear stick and gets the ambulance into reverse, another tyre bursting as we go over the ridge in the centre of the road, the shots still coming as we flee around the corner. I carry on singing. The wheels are scraping, burst rubber burning on the road.

The men run for a stretcher as we arrive and I shake my head. They spot the new bullet holes and run to see if we are OK. ďIs there any other way to get to her,Ē I want to know. ďLa, maaku tareeq.Ē There is no other way.

They say we did the right thing. They say they have fixed the ambulance four times already and they will fix it again but the radiator is gone and the wheels are buckled and the woman is still at home in the dark giving birth alone. I let her down.

We canít go out again. For one thing there is no ambulance and besides itís dark now and that means our foreign faces canít protect the people who go out with us or the people we pick up.

Maki is the acting director of the place. He says he hated Saddam but now he hates the Americans more.

We take off the blue gowns as the sky starts exploding somewhere beyond the building opposite. Minutes later a car roars up to the clinic. I can hear him screaming before I can see that there is no skin left on his body. He is burnt from head to foot. For sure there is nothing they can do. He will die of dehydration within a few days.

Another man is pulled from the car onto a stretcher. Cluster bombs, they say, although it is not clear whether they mean one or both of them. We set off walking to Mr Yasserís house, waiting at each corner for someone to check the street before we cross. A ball of fire falls from a plane, splits into smaller balls of bright white lights. I think they are cluster bombs, because cluster bombs are in the front of my mind, but they vanish, just magnesium flares, incredibly bright and short-lived, giving a flash picture of the town from above.

Yasser asks us all to introduce ourselves. I tell him Iím training to be a lawyer. One of the other men asks whether I know about international law. They want to know about the law on war crimes, what a war crime is. I tell them I know some of the Geneva Conventions, that Iíll bring some information next time I come and we can get someone to explain it in Arabic.

We bring up the matter of Nayoko. This group of fighters has nothing to do with the ones who are holding the Japanese hostages, but while they are thanking us for what we did this evening, we talk about the things Nayoko did for the street kids, how much they loved her. They canít promise anything but that they will try and find out where she is and try to persuade the group to let her and the others go.

I donít suppose it will make any difference. They are busy fighting a war in Falluja. They are unconnected with the other group. But it canít hurt to try.

The planes are above us all night. As I doze I forget Iím not on a long distance flight. The constant bass note of an unmanned reconnaissance drone overlaid with the frantic thrash of jets and the dull beat of helicopters and interrupted by explosions.

In the morning I make balloon dogs, giraffes and elephants for the little ones, Abdullah, Aboudi, who is clearly distressed by the noise of the aircraft and the explosions. I blow bubbles which he follows with his eyes. Finally, finally, I score a smile. The twins, thirteen years old, laugh too. One of them is an ambulance driver; both said to be handy with a Kalashnikov.

The doctors look haggard in the morning. None has slept more than a couple of hours a night for a week. One has had only eight hours of sleep in the last seven days, missing the funerals of his brother and aunt because he was needed at the hospital.

ďThe dead we cannot help,Ē Jassim said. ďI must worry about the injured.Ē

We go again, Dave, Rana and me, this time in a pick-up. There are some sick people close to the marinesí line who need evacuating. No one dares come out of their houses because the marines are on top of the buildings shooting at anything that moves. Saad fetches us a white flag and tells us not to worry, he has checked and secured the road, no Mujahedin will fire at us, that peace is upon us; this eleven year old child, his face covered with a keffiyeh, but for his bright brown eyes, his AK47 almost as tall as he is.

We shout again to the soldiers, hold up the flag with a red crescent sprayed onto it. Two come down from the building, cover this side and Rana mutters, ďAllah-o-akbar. Please nobody take a shot at them.Ē

We jump down and tell them we need to get some sick people from the houses and they want Rana to go and bring out the family from the house whose roof they are on. Thirteen women and children are still inside, in one room, without food and water for the last 24hours.

ďWeíre going to be going through soon clearing the houses,Ē the senior one says.

ďWhat does that mean, clearing the houses?Ē

ďGoing into every one searching for weapons.Ē He is checking his watch, canít tell me what will start when, of course, but there is going to be air strikes in support. ďIf youíre going to do this you have to do it soon.Ē

First we go down the street we were sent to. There is a man, face down, in a white dishdash, a small round red stain on his back. We run to him. Again the flies have got there first. Dave is at his shoulders, I am by his knees and as we reach to roll him onto the stretcher Daveís hand goes through his chest, through the cavity left by the bullet that entered so neatly through his back and blew his heart out.

There is no weapon in his hand. Only when we arrive, his sons come out, crying, shouting. He was unarmed, they scream. He was unarmed. He just went out the gate and they shot him. None of them have dared come out since. No one had dared come to get his body, horrified, terrified, forced to violate the traditions of treating the body immediately. They couldnít have known we were coming so itís inconceivable that anyone came out and retrieved a weapon but left the body.

He was unarmed, 55 years old, shot in the back.

We cover his face, carry him to the pick-up. There is nothing to cover his body with. The sick woman is helped out of the house, the little girls around her hugging cloth bags to their bodies, whispering, ďBaba, baba.Ē Daddy. Shaking, they let us go first, hands up, around the corner, then we usher them to the cab of the pick-up, shielding their heads so they canít see him, the cuddly fat man stiff in the back.

The people seem to pour out of the houses now in the hope we can escort them safely out of the line of fire; kids, women, men, anxiously asking us where they can all go, or only the women and children. We go to ask. The young marine tells us that men of fighting age canít leave. ďWhatís fighting age,Ē I want to know. He contemplates. ďAnything under 45. No lower limit.Ē

It appals me that all those men would be trapped in a city which is about to be destroyed. Not all of them are fighters, not all are armed. It is going to happen out of the view of the world, out of sight of the media, because most of the media in Falluja is embedded with the marines or turned away at the outskirts. Before we can pass the message on, two explosions scatter the crowd in the side street back into their houses.

Rana is with the marines evacuating the family from the house they are occupying. The pick-up isnít back yet. The families are hiding behind their walls. We wait, because there is nothing else we can do. We wait in no manís land. The marines, at least, are watching us through binoculars; maybe the local fighters are too.

I have a disappearing handkerchief in my pocket so while Iím sitting like a lemon, nowhere to go, gunfire and explosions aplenty all around, I make the handkerchief disappear, reappear, disappear. It is always best, I think, to seem completely unthreatening and completely unconcerned, so no one worries about you enough to shoot. We canít wait too long though. Rana has been gone for ages. We have to go and get her to hurry. There is a young man in the group. She has talked them into letting him leave too.

A man wants to use his police car to carry some of the people, a couple of elderly ones who canít walk far, the smallest children. Itís missing a door. Who knows if he was really a police or the car was appropriated and just ended up there? It doesnít matter if it gets more people out faster. They creep from their houses, huddle by the wall, follow us out, their hands up too, and walk up the street clutching babies, bags, each other.

The pick-up gets back and we shovel as many onto it as we can as an ambulance arrives from somewhere. A young man waves from the doorway of what is left of a house, his upper body bare, a blood soaked bandage around his arm, probably a fighter but it makes no difference once someone is wounded and unarmed.

Getting the dead is not essential. Like the doctor said, the dead donít need help, but if itís easy enough then we will. Since we are already OK with the soldiers and the ambulance is here, we run down to fetch them in. It is important in Islam to bury the body straightaway.

The ambulance follows us down. The soldiers start shouting in English at us for it to stop, pointing guns. It is moving fast. We are all yelling, signalling for it to stop, but it seems to take forever for the driver to hear and see us. It stops. It stops, before they open fire. We haul them onto the stretchers and run, shove them in the back. Rana squeezes in the front with the wounded man and Dave and I crouch in the back beside the bodies. He says he had allergies as a kid and has not much sense of smell. I wish, retrospectively, for childhood allergies, and stick my head out the window.

The bus is going to leave, taking the injured people back to Baghdad, the man with the burns, one of the women who was shot in the jaw and shoulder by a sniper, several others. Rana says she is staying to help.

Dave and I donít hesitate: we are staying too. ďIf I donít do it, who will?Ē has become an accidental motto and I am acutely aware after the last foray how many people, how many women and children, are still in their houses either because they have nowhere to go, because they are scared to go out of the door or because they have chosen to stay.

To begin with it is agreed, then Azzam says we have to go. He has contacts only with some armed groups. There are different issues to square with each one. We need to get these people back to Baghdad as quickly as we can. If we are kidnapped or killed it will cause even more problems, so itís better that we just get on the bus and leave and come back with him as soon as possible.

It hurts to climb onto the bus when the doctor has just asked us to go and evacuate some more people. I hate the fact that a qualified medic canít travel in the ambulance but I can, just because I look like the sniperís sister or one of his mates, but thatís the way it is today and the way it was yesterday and I feel like a traitor for leaving, but I canít see where I have a choice. It is a war now and as alien as it is to me to do what I am told, for once I have to.

Jassim is scared. He harangues Mohammed constantly, tries to pull him out of the driverís seat wile we are moving. The woman with the gunshot wound is on the back seat, the man with the burns in front of her, being fanned with cardboard from the empty boxes, his intravenous drips swinging from the rail along the ceiling of the bus. It is hot. It must be unbearable for him.

Saad comes onto the bus to wish us well for the journey. He shakes Daveís hand and then mine. I hold his in both of mine and tell him ďDir balak,Ē take care, as if I could say anything more stupid to a pre-teen Mujahedin with an AK47 in his other hand, and our eyes meet and stay fixed, his full of fire and fear.

Canít I take him away? Canít I take him somewhere he can be a child? Canít I make him a balloon giraffe and give him some drawing pens and tell him not to forget to brush his teeth? Canít I find the person who put the rifle in the hands of that little boy? Canít I tell someone about what that does to a child? Do I have to leave him here where there are heavily armed men all around him and lots of them are not on his side, however many sides there are in all of this? And of course I do. I do have to leave him, like child soldiers everywhere.

The way back is tense, the bus almost getting stuck in a dip in the sand, people escaping in anything, even piled on the trailer of a tractor, lines of cars and pick-ups and buses ferrying people to the dubious sanctuary of Baghdad, lines of men in vehicles queuing to get back into the city having brought their families to safety, either to fight or to help evacuate more people.

The driver, Jassim, the father, ignores Azzam and takes a different road so that suddenly we are not following the lead car and we are on a road that is controlled by a different armed group than the ones which know us.

A crowd of men waves guns to stop the bus. Somehow they apparently believe that there are American soldiers on the bus, as if they wouldnít be in tanks or helicopters, and there are men getting out of their cars with shouts of ďSahafa Amreeki,Ē American journalists. The passengers shout out of the windows, ďAna min Falluja,Ē I am from Falluja. Gunmen run onto the bus and see that it is true, there are sick and injured and old people, Iraqis, and then relax, wave us on.

We stop in Abu Ghraib and swap seats, foreigners in the front, Iraqis less visible, headscarves off so we look more western. The American soldiers are so happy to see westerners they donít mind too much about the Iraqis with us, search the men and the bus, leave the women unsearched because there are no women soldiers to search us. Mohammed keeps asking me if things are going to be OK.

ďAl-melaach wiyana,Ē I tell him. The angels are with us. He laughs.

And then we are in Baghdad, delivering them to the hospitals, Nuha in tears as they take the burnt man off groaning and whimpering. She puts her arms around me and asks me to be her friend. I make her feel less isolated, she says, less alone.

And the satellite news says the cease-fire is holding and George Bush says to the troops on Easter Sunday that, ďI know what weíre doing in Iraq is right.Ē Shooting unarmed men in the back outside their family home is right? Shooting grandmothers with white flags is right? Shooting at women and children who are fleeing their homes is right? Firing at ambulances is right?

Well George, I know too now. I know what it looks like when you brutalise people so much that they have nothing left to lose. I know what it looks like when an operation is being done without anaesthetic because the hospitals are destroyed or under sniper fire and the city is under siege and aid isnít getting in properly.

I know what it sounds like too. I know what it looks like when tracer bullets are passing your head, even though you are in an ambulance. I know what it looks like when a manís chest is no longer inside him and what it smells like, and I know what it looks like when his wife and children pour out of his house.

Itís a crime and itís a disgrace to us all.

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Old 04-17-2004, 09:23 PM   #2
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I am proud of the work the soldiers are doing there. I think the article is bogus, and it is so easy to paint the US as the bad guys.

Such self righteous crap.

Anyways, here was the Pentagons response.

[Q]Our editor Caspar Henderson asked the Pentagon for a response to this article. They sent us this:

Dear Mr Henderson

There are those who falsely report that US forces are targeting non-combatants. The truth is, US forces have attempted to protect civilians to the best of their ability. When US forces are attacked we apply the appropriate, proportionate combat power to eliminate that resistance. With respect to the Marines in Fallujah, they are being very deliberate and precise in the application of their combat power to prevent non-combatant casualties in the area.

Respectfully,

Bruce Frame
Capt, U.S. Marines
CENTCOM Spokesperson
www.centcom.mil[/Q]

But hey, twist it anyway you want. Too bad we did not see more outrage over the death of the four civilians. Instead we have the religious leaders saying it is altright to kill Americans but not multilate.



When I see the population of Iraq policing their own, then maybe I will feel differently. Until they stop standing by while these extremists attempt to ruin their chances for a working government and do something to prevent it, we will police for them. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt.

Keep pointing the finger at the soldier over there.
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Insurgants can become "innocent non-combatants" when they simply drop their weapons....
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As in they have been shot, killed and then had their weapons are taken away before the cameras come in to film the "massacre". It is interesting that Falluja has been reported just like the "Jenin Massacre" and I think that history will set the facts straight. Remember DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON TV!
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Such self righteous crap.

Anyways, here was the Pentagons response.








Anyway, count al the numbers up andivide them by the amount of reports. That average will be very near the real numbers of deaths,...



The US government never made a big deal about Iraq body counts.
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I have this feeling that I really don't know what's going on for sure here, because there are a gazillion political agendas being pushed in the media and it sure makes for a truly dizzying state of confusion.
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The US government never made a big deal about Iraq body counts.
So true. As Tommy Franks put it: "we don't do body counts."

If he did, he'd know that this "coalition" has killed over 10,000 people in Iraq so far.
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10,000 Iraqi deaths. Egads.
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Yep if War is hell, the peace under Saddam was worse than hell though.
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Nor according to many Iraqi's I've seen interviewed on TV. Course not the mainstream trash we Americans call news.

I don't think women and children are insurgents.

I never understand why the US thinks their soldiers never do anything wrong. Cripes many have been there 2 times as long as they were promised. CSM has several interviews with the soldiers saying they will have to kill off the whole town. Get real, if you have to fight people they have to harden thier hearts to them, after a year theat can easily spill over to having an entire people includung civilians.
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The thing is that I didn't think we were supposed to be at war like this in April of 2004. It's scaring me to be honest. I won't lie to you. This is a hell of alot like March 2003, only scarier. May God help us. I prayed my heart out at Mass today.
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Marines in Fallujah trade ' culturally sensitive' training for bullets

By LOURDES NAVARRO
Associated Press Writer

Thursday April 15, 2004 -- FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) On a rooftop overlooking Fallujah's industrial wasteland, Lance Cpl. Tom Browne pokes his machine gun muzzle out of a hole in a barrier wall, singing to himself to pass the time.

In the street below, the corpse of an insurgent suspect lies baking in the sun. Browne, from Boston, says he has killed several rebels, probably Iraqis, so far.

``I don't even think about those people as people,'' he says.

It wasn't supposed to be this way.

The band of Marines in this insurgent stronghold received two big orders this year. They were told to return to Iraq to stabilize the Sunni areas west of Baghdad, Iraq's toughest patch of territory. The normally clean-shaven Marines were also told to grow mustaches in an attempt to win over Iraqis who see facial hair as a sign of maturity.

``We did it basically to show the Iraqi people that we respect their culture,'' said Lance Cpl. Cristopher Boulwave, 22, from Desoto Texas.

But after the brutal killing of four American contractors in Fallujah on March 31, they tossed aside such pretenses. First to go were the mustaches.

``When you go to fight, it's time to shoot not to make friends with people,'' said Sgt. Cameron Lefter, 34, from Seattle.

In the fight for Fallujah which has killed more than 600 Iraqis, according to city doctors, and around a dozen Marines

the Marines now seem to be following the second half of their famous motto: ``no better friend, no worse enemy.''

The Marines say it's easier to cope with the daily work of killing inside Fallujah, where a seemingly unending supply of rebels continues to fight, if they don't think about the suspected Iraqi rebels they are targeting as people who, under different circumstances, they might have been trying to help.

``If someone came and did this to our neighborhood I'd be pissed too,'' said Capt. Don Maraska, of Moscow, Idaho, a 37-year-old who guides airstrikes on enemy targets in the town. ``I've never had people look at me the ways these people look at me. I don't know what came before, but at this point, what else can we possibly do but fight?''

The Marines were hoping to lull Fallujah and al-Anbar province into a state of well-being by passing out $540 million in rebuilding funds, and showing off a more educated attitude about Arab sensitivities than they believed their U.S. Army predecessors displayed.

Before returning to Iraq, the Marines took a crash course in cultural training that included a video teleconference with an Arabic studies professor and the distribution of a culture handbook with tips warning against showing the soles of their feet or eating with their left hands.

Around three dozen Marines from one unit took a three week intensive language course in Arabic. And of course, they grew mustaches.

``We grew them for the Iraqi people. We shaved them off for us,'' Lt. Col. Brennan Byrne, who originally ordered his men to sport the facial hair, said.

These days, the Marines are speaking a more familiar language.

``We didn't initiate this,'' said 1st Marine Regiment Commander Col. John Toolen. ``I came in here with more money than bullets. Now I'm running out of bullets but the money is still in my pocket.''

The Marines are frustrated with the negotiations to halt the firing in Fallujah. Many say they want to finish the battle, take control of the rebel city by brute force whatever it takes rather than wait for Iraqi negotiators to thrash out a deal to stop the fighting.

``We're the guys that go in and put out foot in the door,'' said Maraska, a veteran of the first Gulf War and Somalia. ``We'll do any mission. But we're better at pushing and fighting.''

Behind the front line, Marines are trying to supply the holed-up locals that they encounter with food and water, one of the few areas their cultural training is put into use.

But Cpl. David Silvers, based in a front-line building nicknamed ``the tower,'' says his experience with Iraqis has been limited to dodging bullets from a persistent and shadowy gunman he dubbed ``Bob the sniper.''

``He's the guy who wakes us up every morning and fires at us all day. He hasn't got anyone yet but he's come close a few times,'' Silvers said.

Even though the Marines have given Bob his name, they say they still want to kill him.

``This is the closest relationship I have with an Iraqi right now,'' Silvers said.
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Damn. This is indeed an Inferno.
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As in they have been shot, killed and then had their weapons are taken away before the cameras come in to film the "massacre".
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Sure, the babies had Guns, maybe WMDs it was self-defense to kill them
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It is interesting that Falluja has been reported just like the "Jenin Massacre" and I think that history will set the facts straight.
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Why do people automatically accuse US soldiers of murdering women and childern when they have no proven evidence of it? There is no evidence that US soldiers have knowningly targeted any civilians in the latest fighting.

If the US military wanted to kill civilians it would be easy enough to call in B-52's from Diego Garcia and fire bomb fallugah killing everyone in the city. It would only take a few hours.

This reminds of the so called "Jenin Massacre" by Israeli troops. Once UN forensic specialist got inside and checked what had happened, they discovered that only 49 civilians had been killed and all seem to have been killed as a result of uncontrollable accidents. A far different picture than the Liberal's and Europeans who claimed that the Israeli military slaughtered 7,000 civilians.
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