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Old 06-21-2007, 06:31 PM   #211
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decided to be gay after 19 years of attraction and relationships with females
You were sexually attracted to females when you were an infant or small child - or was there a point when you started to find girls a bit more interesting?
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:39 PM   #212
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I think there's no debate for most of us as to the "wrongness" or "rightness" of adultery, and yet no one's advocating that the rights of adulterers should be taken away.

What a great example.
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You were sexually attracted to females when you were an infant or small child -
all baby boys are born straight
and all baby girls are born gay

as the girls get older most of the choose to go straight, lucky for us straight guys.
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What a great example.
and anyone that has ever fornicated even once

should for ever be labeled as someone that all decent people reserve "hate" for

fornication is their "sin"

we should say we love you "fornicator"

but we hate "your sin".

thank you for validating are "righteous hate"

we go to church to validate our "hate'.


Love the filthy fornicator and hate their "filthy sin".


oh, and the best part for you

you will never be able to partake of the sacrament of marriage,
you will forever be known as the "fornicator" that allows us our righteous hate.

So it is "written" in the Lord's Book.
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except me, whose best friend is a gay male--not at all uncommon


and he's kinda attractive, too.
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:59 AM   #216
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Every gay person I've talked to says that they "always knew" even when they were living (or trying to live) as a straight person.


and some of us had Playboys in our rooms, and late at night we'd try and try and try and try ... and it wasn't that it couldn't happen, it was that it was a struggle, and a near forcing of a response that, when you're 15, should be pretty near automatic. whereas i could just close my eyes and imagine the same sex, and it would be as natural as breathing.

being an overly analytical, over-thinking individual with an expansive self-narrative, i thought i could re-condition myself, i spun pseudo-psychological narratives for myself to explain this away, i reassured myself that once i finally had sex with a woman then it would all go away. or at least become manageable.

and i will say that the first time with a woman wasn't a chore, exactly, but it was an effort, and awkward, and something i felt i must do, and do well.

first time with a man, it was like taking a long drink of water after marching through the deserted for 3 days.
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It defies all logic to think and believe that anyone would freely choose to be homosexual when you consider all they are subjected to in this world. It just makes no sense to me.
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i wonder, though, how many gay people would "choose" to be straight, if they could; and, likewise, how many straight people would "choose" to be gay.
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Explain to me this. What about people who have been in relationships with both sexes? If they were indeed born gay like you say, werent they choosing to be straight when dating someone of the opposite sex?

Or are bisexuals a completely different story?

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Explain to me this. What about people who have been in relationships with both sexes? If they were indeed born gay like you say, werent they choosing to be straight when dating someone of the opposite sex?

Or are bisexuals a completely different story?

If you lived in a world that told you you were wrong, wouldn't you at least try at some point to be "normal". If this world said being you were wrong, and people would beat you just for being you, you were denied rights just because of who you are, I'm positive you would at least try for a short while to pretend you were someone else.
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Originally posted by Irvine511 likewise, how many straight people would "choose" to be gay. [/B]
I'd have to know a bit more about this gay lifestyle before I commit...
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Or are bisexuals a completely different story?

What the hell is wrong with you? Why the rolleyes? If you don't understand it, it's fair game for you to ridicule?

God help you as you grow up. I mean that; you're going to have a hard time if you are so rigid and inflexible about thing outside your experience.
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If you lived in a world that told you you were wrong, wouldn't you at least try at some point to be "normal". If this world said being you were wrong, and people would beat you just for being you, you were denied rights just because of who you are, I'm positive you would at least try for a short while to pretend you were someone else.
I dont know about that. I would be proud to be whatever it is that I am, not ashamed. People attack Republicans and Christians pretty often, but I would never for a second pretend to be a Democrat or a non-Christian just to avoid persecution.

If what you're saying is correct, I think it hurts their fight more than helps it. You see, that contributes to people like me saying "See? They can choose their orientation."
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You see, that contributes to people like me saying "See? They can choose their orientation."
Because people like you like to think you know more than therapists, scientists, bisexuals, and pretty much anyone else who disagrees with your narrow world-view.

Yep, everyone should plan things out carefully so you have no doubts about anything they do.
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If what you're saying is correct, I think it hurts their fight more than helps it. You see, that contributes to people like me saying "See? They can choose their orientation."
It's the fault of gay people that you think they're not born gay because at some point in their life they may have taken somebody of the opposite sex to the prom and dinner a couple of times in a desperate attempt to be just like everyone else in their high school or college?
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