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Old 06-09-2009, 05:57 PM   #16
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Ireland does not have mandatory health insurance, but the cost of insurance is relatively cheap, compared to the US (I assume because it is subsidised).

Of course, those who refuse to obtain health insurance spend all their time complaining about waiting lists.

Make it mandatory and subsidise it, as per Europe, is the solution I favour.
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I'm sure with the Government running things in the insurance department all will go much more smoothly. It'll be like the FEMA of health care.
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My guess is that by "penalty" they mean some sort of tax impact. Hawaii has mandatory health coverage, but I'm not sure what their penalty is.

Massachusetts has something specific around those lines as well, but I might be confusing certain state programs for health care with what is or what isn't mandatory.

(I work with employee benefits for my company, so I should know the specifics of these things. But I just know how they work in relation to our employees, not in general. )
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Make it mandatory and subsidise it, as per Europe, is the solution I favour.
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I'm sure with the Government running things in the insurance department all will go much more smoothly. It'll be like the FEMA of health care.


so it's just the American government that doesn't work, right? because all other Western countries have universal health care with varying levels of government participation and they seem to somehow still be surviving (and have a longer life expectancy and lower rates of obesity).

government only fails when Republicans are in charge.
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so it's just the American government that doesn't work, right? because all other Western countries have universal health care with varying levels of government participation and they seem to somehow still be surviving (and have a longer life expectancy and lower rates of obesity).

government only fails when Republicans are in charge.
Health care is making people fat now?

Western Europe has an average life expectancy of about 6 months longer than ours.

Wow.
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Wow.

Anyone with the sense of overall changes in humanity, and the relevantly short timespan that "modern" medicine has been around, that's huge.
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We're fat and we live just as long. In your face EU.
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We're fat and we live just as long. In your face EU.
But we don't, some of the differences are up to 2 almost 3 years...

But nice try.
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But we don't, some of the differences are up to 2 almost 3 years...

But nice try.


And some aren't. Some are even worse, I'm looking at you Ireland and Denmark.



Splitting hairs, if we only lived to be 50 I'd give a shit.
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And some aren't. Some are even worse, I'm looking at you Ireland and Denmark.



Splitting hairs, if we only lived to be 50 I'd give a shit.
Well in 50 years when the differences are much bigger because America proudly stated "We're fat and we used to live just as long. In your face EU."

I'm sure your grandchildren will care.
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Well in 50 years when the differences are much bigger because America proudly stated "We're fat and we used to live just as long. In your face EU."
You better hope they are.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-Europe.html

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Doesn't really contradict anything I said, but hey good try
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I forgot you said anything.
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