Man vs. Animal - Page 2 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-24-2006, 10:52 AM   #16
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
AEON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Posts: 4,052
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by A_Wanderer
It is the reality of the situation, animals of no or low sentience cannot comprehend the responsibilities that rights and liberties cine with - they should be treated humanely but not as equal beings or as deserving the same legal protections as humans.

Animal rights is fundamentally flawed, im all for humane treatment of animals but not rights.

We use animals for meat, sport and entertainment - if we yielded to the animal rights crowd then all of these would be wrong.
Man, I am generally conservative in my views but this is a tough stance.

Just because an animal can't ask for rights - it doesn't mean they are not entitled to rights. (you do claim their "right" to be treated humanely - which is good)

Should they be treated with all the rights of a human? No. But they are entitled to some I believe. I just don't know where the line is.
__________________

__________________
AEON is offline  
Old 06-24-2006, 10:53 AM   #17
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
AEON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Posts: 4,052
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by nbcrusader


I would bet that Christian relief organizations are doing far more than the cynical secularism that is offered as an alternative.
Amen!
__________________

__________________
AEON is offline  
Old 06-24-2006, 06:43 PM   #18
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by nbcrusader


I would bet that Christian relief organizations are doing far more than the cynical secularism that is offered as an alternative.
I would too.
__________________
verte76 is offline  
Old 06-25-2006, 10:14 AM   #19
Refugee
 
toscano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,032
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by AEON


We thought the same thing about Captain Kirk's communicator. Would you agree that it is at least a worthy goal? If it was possible - would you prefer computer simulations over live animal testing?
Would you get on a plane which has never been test flown, only run on computer simulations ?

I have to believe from your post that you're not actually in the Science or Technology fields, and i certainly hope you never have kids who never get seriously sick, after all, what's the point in just having them live a few more years ? Save the rats instead eh ?.........
__________________
toscano is offline  
Old 06-25-2006, 10:38 AM   #20
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
AEON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Posts: 4,052
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by toscano


Would you get on a plane which has never been test flown, only run on computer simulations ?

I have to believe from your post that you're not actually in the Science or Technology fields, and i certainly hope you never have kids who never get seriously sick, after all, what's the point in just having them live a few more years ? Save the rats instead eh ?.........
Funny enough, I actually work for a BioTech company here in California - designing, building and maintaining the very systems that run tests.

I actually do not believe at this time we can do 100% computerized testing for disease treatments. I just think that this should be the goal. If, in theory, we could do valid research without animals - why not?
__________________
AEON is offline  
Old 06-25-2006, 01:14 PM   #21
Refugee
 
toscano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,032
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by AEON


If, in theory, we could do valid research without animals - why not?
So, you WOULD get on a plane which has never been tested, only computer simulated. I wouldn't.
__________________
toscano is offline  
Old 06-25-2006, 03:40 PM   #22
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
AEON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Posts: 4,052
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by toscano


So, you WOULD get on a plane which has never been tested, only computer simulated. I wouldn't.
I don't know...that would really be putting me theory to the test would it not?

I definitely wouldn't do it today. I think it is worth hoping that I would sometime in the future.
__________________
AEON is offline  
Old 06-26-2006, 01:10 AM   #23
Jesus Online
 
Angela Harlem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: a glass castle
Posts: 30,163
Local Time: 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by AEON


Funny enough, I actually work for a BioTech company here in California - designing, building and maintaining the very systems that run tests.

I actually do not believe at this time we can do 100% computerized testing for disease treatments. I just think that this should be the goal. If, in theory, we could do valid research without animals - why not?
And you're in the seminary? Is the seminary different from the priesthood? Back when I was well, younger, it meant full time study for 6-odd years.
__________________
<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/angelaharlem/thPaul_Roos28.jpg target=_blank>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...aul_Roos28.jpg</a>
Angela Harlem is offline  
Old 06-26-2006, 01:15 AM   #24
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
AEON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Posts: 4,052
Local Time: 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Angela Harlem


Back when I was well, younger, it meant full time study for 6-odd years.
That probably still is true for a priest. I am not Catholic and I go part time. Full time would take three years for Master in Divinity...for me it will take 5 or 6
__________________

__________________
AEON is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com