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Old 04-26-2006, 05:10 AM   #1
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Yes I ripped the title off the horrible L. Ron Hubbard's drivel, since it relates to a relevent but equally annoying
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The Spanish Socialist Party will introduce a bill in the Congress of Deputies calling for “the immediate inclusion of (simians) in the category of persons, and that they be given the moral and legal protection that currently are only enjoyed by human beings.” The PSOE’s justification is that humans share 98.4% of our genes with chimpanzees, 97.7% with gorillas, and 96.4% with orangutans.

The party will announce its Great Ape Project at a press conference tomorrow. An organization with the same name is seeking a UN declaration on simian rights which would defend ape interests “the same as those of minors and the mentally handicapped of our species.”

According to the Project, “Today only members of the species Homo sapiens are considered part of the community of equals. The chimpanzee, the gorilla, and the orangutan are our species’s closest relatives. They possess sufficient mental faculties and emotional life to justify their inclusion in the community of equals.”
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I think that Penn Jillette stating that he would kill every ape on the planet to save one human life about sums my attitude, what next - give apes the vote?
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Perhaps they are counting on the simian vote in the next election.
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I'm not in favor of killing every ape, but I don't think apes are equal to humans.
What's that line from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back about how in the future the monkey will spank us?
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a man animal? digging for gold? hahahahahahahah!

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Hi Wanderer,

This reminds me of a show I saw about the Australian Aborigines who apparently weren't considered human beings till 1967 when they finally got the vote and the right to Australian citizenship. Up till then they were considered "flora and fauna", which is why Capt. Cook and Matthew Flinders each decided the continent was uninhabited even though the Aborigines were living there tens of thousands of years before.

Very weird indeed.....
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So if I were to I have sex with one of those animals, it'd be legal? This sounds like a win-win, people. What's the problem?

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They would do it for peanuts.
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An organization with the same name is seeking a UN declaration on simian rights which would defend ape interests "the same as those of minors and the mentally handicapped of our species."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Ape_Project

Peter Singer, Richard Dawkins, Jane Goodall et al. The focus appears to be on putting an end to the use of apes in biomedical research and zoos, on grounds that they are sufficiently sentient and intelligent to warrant rights to life and liberty.

Not really something I would've predicted the PSOE would get involved with...they're a major party, one of Europe's oldest social democratic parties, I think. I suppose that kind of endorsement is precisely what this organization is looking for though.
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Maybe we should just start testing drugs and cosmetic products on the mentally handicapepd and minors
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Thanks....I'll keep this in my pending files for now.....

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yes, good idea carol. you do that.

Excellent point, AchtungBono. Disgraceful, isn't it. Of course it remains slightly different because Aboriginals are still human beings and apes are not, but the principle of how we accept extending rights is still there. Do I reckon apes deserve the vote? Dont be bloody stupid. Do I reckon they deserve preservation of life? Absolutely. It is only fucked up arrogant people who might think otherwise. If you think their preservation of life is not worthy, then dont question me; question yourself.

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Thanks....I'll keep this in my pending files for now.....

thanks for this, and all your other android responses that i've read lately.
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yes, good idea carol. you do that.

Excellent point, AchtungBono. Disgraceful, isn't it. Of course it remains slightly different because Aboriginals are still human beings and apes are not, but the principle of how we accept extending rights is still there. Do I reckon apes deserve the vote? Dont be bloody stupid. Do I reckon they deserve preservation of life? Absolutely. It is only fucked up arrogant people who might think otherwise. If you think their preservation of life is not worthy, then dont question me; question yourself.

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Yeah but on the other hand they'd drive you BANANAS.......
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Yeah but on the other hand they'd drive you BANANAS.......
Just like women. <---- see?
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