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Old 08-28-2008, 08:12 PM   #46
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meh, i don't mind this actually. the world is supersexualised, and while this is quite possibly the lamest and worst choice to make a stand against, at least someone else is tired of it.
You just said what I really wanted to say, but I'm kinda tired of being the token mildly social conservative on FYM.
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meh, i don't mind this actually. the world is supersexualised, and while this is quite possibly the lamest and worst choice to make a stand against, at least someone else is tired of it.
I think a book meant to educate young people about sex is a very different thing than stuff like Girls Gone Wild. I don't think this women is just tired of our oversexualized culture - she thinks kids should live in ignorance when it comes to their own sexuality. Being raised in an atmosphere like that can really mess kids up.
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My mom was an OB nurse, so I got a very no-nonsense, clinically detailed talk. No made-up nicknames in my house.

Also, when we had sex ed in school (don't remember what grade ... maybe 4th?), they extended the invitation to mothers to join the class if they wanted, to partake with their daughters or whatever.

My mom was the only mother in the class to come. She said they wanted to make sure they "got it right." Like it's rocket science or something. "The vagina goes into the penis ... no wait..."

I wasn't very popular before that, and I was even less popular after that. Thanks, Mom!
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Yeah, how does education = supersexualized?

I don't get that line of thinking...
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I think that the impacts of this 'supersexualisation' is plain enough, fewer sexually transmitted diseases, teen pregnancies and abortions. There is also that inverse correlation (albeit one heavily complicated by socioeconomic factors) between the growing availability of internet pornography and incidents of rape.
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I think that the impacts of this 'supersexualisation' is plain enough, fewer sexually transmitted diseases, teen pregnancies and abortions.
So don't educate and kids won't have sex? There's nothing "plain enough" about it.
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Or kids do have sex when they are 14, 15, 16 etc. but their marginally less stupid about it.
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I think a book meant to educate young people about sex is a very different thing than stuff like Girls Gone Wild. I don't think this women is just tired of our oversexualized culture - she thinks kids should live in ignorance when it comes to their own sexuality. Being raised in an atmosphere like that can really mess kids up.
Well said. Oversexualized culture+lack of proper sex ed=disaster, however you want to define that. There are many forms.
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There is also that inverse correlation (albeit one heavily complicated by socioeconomic factors) between the growing availability of internet pornography and incidents of rape.
Really? Aren't only a small percentage of rapes even reported though?
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Yeah, how does education = supersexualized?

I don't get that line of thinking...
i was not drawing that correlation. society as a whole is supersexualised, and all i was saying was that it's kind of nice in a roundabout way that someone else is tired of it.

albeit in an unfortunate manner. this book, i can only assume, would be of far better good than bad, but i wasn't talking about the book whatsoever.
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That woman's fight is so stupid. Does she really think she's going to accomplish anything? It's not like the library can't buy a new copy, and surely with all this publicity, several have already been donated. No, all she's doing is giving the book more publicity, which will encourage more people to buy it. Sure, a few are probably going to pull a stunt like hers, but in the long run, she'll accomplish nothing.

I'm glad the local library I've been frequenting my whole life is so open-minded. In their history, they've only banned a single book: a financial planning book by a woman who was later convicted of fraud. Makes sense. They have posters up of a list of the 100 most frequently banned books... many of which I borrowed from their shelves while growing up.

But they do do their best to protect kids when they can. There are three levels of library card. Orange for kids, green for teens, and pink for adults. Certain books (and movies especially) cannot be checked out under the lower levels without a librarian override. But they don't go banning sex education books from kids. Nor do they ban books about a kid having two mommies, or a pair of male penguins raising an egg together.

As for internet access, it's been a long time since I had to use the internet there, but it is filtered, and monitored (I remember one real bitch of a librarian who really liked to hover over people), and there's a separate internet room for youths (with several computers reserved specifically for MPORPG games.)

So it's not like kids are running rampant, pulling porn off the shelves in libraries across the country. People like this woman need to get a grip and open their eyes. Kids start thinking about and wanting to have sex as young as 12. You have to get to them early and teach them about risks and protection. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away. Know when teen pregnancy in the United States peaked? The 50s. Because pretending sex doesn't exist doesn't make people stop doing it. And they're going to do it whether you want them to or not. So you might as well teach them what can happen and how to prevent STDs/pregnancy.
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I hope she's prepared for her daughter to get knocked up at 15 because she doesn't know where babies come from. Way to parent!
Nah, it's all good. One of her friends will tell her all she has to do is jump up and down after sex and she won't get pregnant Friends are a wealth of knowledge.
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Nah, it's all good. One of her friends will tell her all she has to do is jump up and down after sex and she won't get pregnant Friends are a wealth of knowledge.
It's always worked for me!
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