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Old 07-07-2005, 07:53 AM   #1
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London Bombings: Who, Where and How

Probably a wise move to consolidate the particulars into a seperate thread as the nature of the main thread has shifted and expanded.

In this thread post on what happened; pictures that one would not like to be posting on a grief thread, information that is outside the context of that and whatnot.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:54 AM   #2
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sorry i posted in the wrong thread.
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:56 AM   #3
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If that was the post in the other thread about Heathrow then that is ideal for this one, but I just posted as well in the other thread, which has changed as more info has come out. I think that seperate threads is the ideal option.
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From SkyNews
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At least 45 people are reported to have been killed and 1,000 injured in a series of co-ordinated terror attacks on London.

Sky News crime correspondent Martin Brunt said the figures, which could rise, were from a reliable source.

He also reported that it is understood that seven were killed in the bus blast in Tavistock Square.

A previously unknown group calling itself “Secret Organisation al Qaeda in Europe” said it carried out the attacks as revenge for British “military massacres” in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188265,00.html

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"It is time of revenge against the crusader and Zionist British government has come in response to the massacres committed by Iraq and Afghanistan,"

"The mujahedeen heroes have launched a blessed attack in London,"

"Here is Britain burning now out of fear and horror in its north, south east and west. We have often and repeatedly warned the British government and people."

"We still warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan we gave the warning, so we should not be blamed."
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/explosions.claim/

Al Qaeda in Europe popped up in a statement in April by one Omar Bakri
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LISBON (Reuters) - Several Islamic militant groups are preparing attacks on London, making such a strike unavoidable, a radical Muslim cleric said in an interview with a Portuguese magazine.

"It's inevitable. Because several (attacks) are being prepared by several groups," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad told Lisbon's Publica magazine from London, where he is based.

One "very well organised" group in London calling itself al Qaeda Europe "has a great appeal for young Muslims", he said. "I know that they are ready to launch a big operation."

London police said they were not prepared to discuss the claims, but the country's most senior police officer, Sir John Stevens, has previously said that an attack on the capital was inevitable.

The firebrand cleric, who has outraged moderate Muslims and non-Muslims alike with his uncompromising views, gave no further details.

Asked if a British Muslim was allowed to carry out a "terrorist attempt" in a foreign country, Muhammad said "That is another story."

He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001611.php

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A British defense expert says Thursday's bombings in London were executed by at least 24 people and designed to mirror bombings last year in Madrid.

While the city was still reeling from five subway blasts and three aboard buses, Michael Clarke, director of the Center for Defense Studies at King's College London, told The Guardian the attacks had obviously been well-planned.

The fact that London was hit when the resources of the security forces were focused on the Group of Eight summit in Scotland indicated some clever thinking by terrorists, he said.

He also noted the similarities to the attacks on Madrid commuter trains last March 11.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi/20050707-073205-7456r.htm

Timeline of events
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8:51 Moorgate / Liverpool street explosion, 100 yards into tunnel from Liverpool Street. Seven confirmed fatalities

8:56 Kings Cross / Russell Square: 21 confirmed fatalities

9:17 explosion on train arriving at Edgware Road; three trains involved, 5 confirmed fatalities

9:47 explosion on bus at Upper Woburn Square; number of fatalities unconfirmed
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12:02 - Blair - "It's reasonably clear that there has been a series of terrorist attacks in London. It is my intention to leave the G8 to talk to police and emergency services personnel face to face... The G8 leaders will continue in my absence... Each of the countries around that table have some experience of terrorism... They all share our complete resolution for the defeat of terrorism. It is particularly barbaric that this has happened on the day people are meeting to try and help the problem of poverty in Africa... Just as it is reasonably clear that this is a terrorist attack... it is reasonably clear it has been timed to coincide with the opening of the G8... It is important, however, that the terrorists realise our determination to defend our values and our way of life is greater than their determination to cause the death and destruction of innocent people and impose their extremism on the world. It is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we have here in this country and in other civilised countries around the world."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4659713.stm

What worries me about this is that the London bombings could have been planned so that officers might be released from the G8 summit to help out there...thus leaving Gleneagles more vulnerable to a follow-up attack.

Scary.
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I am sure that Gleneagles is very safe, contingency plans and whatnot.
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If anything they would increase security at the G8, not redeploy the security forces elsewhere.
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BBC is giving 30 fatalities and 350 injuries now.

CNN has 33 so does Sky and Fox,
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As much as it hurts me, this will not end. We will have to face attack after attack in the largest cities as it is practically impossible to protect them 100%.

This sucks
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And here http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050707/i...1453945059.jpg
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George Galloway:

The loss of innocent lives, whether in this country or Iraq, is precisely the result of a world that has become a less safe and peaceful place in recent years.
We have worked without rest to remove the causes of such violence from our world. We argued, as did the Security Services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain. Tragically Londoners have now paid the price of the government ignoring such warnings.
We urge the government to remove people in this country from harms way, as the Spanish government acted to remove its people from harm, by ending the occupation of Iraq and by turning its full attention to the development of a real solution to the wider conflicts in the Middle East.
Only then will the innocents here and abroad be able to enjoy a life free of the threat of needless violence.
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Ken Livingston, mayor of London:

"This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty and the powerful; it is not aimed at presidents or prime ministers; it was aimed at ordinary working class Londoners, black and white, Muslim and Christians, Hindu and Jew, young and old, indiscriminate attempt at slaughter irrespective of any considerations, of age, of class, of religion, whatever, that isn't an ideology, it isn't even a perverted faith, it's just indiscriminate attempt at mass murder, and we know what the objective is, they seek to divide London. They seek to turn Londoners against each other and Londoners will not be divided by this cowardly attack... I wish to speak through you directly, to those who came to London to claim lives, nothing you do, how many of us you kill will stop that flight to our cities where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another, whatever you do, how many you kill, you will fail."
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Ironic considering that both of those men have done considerable statements of support for Islamists of one type or another over the last few years; from homophobic sheiks to Hamas terrorists.

Red Ken kept on message, Georgeous George is really just ellaborating on his prior statements and positions. It is abundantly clear where he stands in the scheme of things.
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