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Old 04-28-2006, 05:58 AM   #1
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Living with War

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Critic's Notebook New York Times
Neil Young's 'Living With War' Shows He Doesn't Like It


By JON PARELES
Published: April 28, 2006
Neil Young unleashes a digital broadside today. His new album, "Living With War" (Reprise), was recorded and mostly written three to four weeks ago and as of Friday can be heard in its entirety free on his Web site, www.neilyoung.com, and on satellite radio networks.



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Mr. Young half-jokingly describes "Living With War" as his "metal folk protest" album. It's his blunt statement about the Iraq war; "History was a cruel judge of overconfidence/back in the days of shock and awe," he sings, strumming an electric guitar and leading a power trio with a sound that harks back to Young albums like "Rust Never Sleeps" and "Ragged Glory."

In a song whose title alone has already brought him the fury of right-wing blogs, he urges, "Let's Impeach the President." It ends with Mr. Young shouting, "Flip, flop," amid contradictory sound bites of President Bush. But Mr. Young insists the album is nonpartisan.

"If you impeach Bush, you're doing a huge favor for the Republicans," he argued, speaking by telephone from California. "They can run again with some pride."

Mr. Young is a Canadian citizen. But having lived in the United States since the 1960's, he sings as if he were an American. The title song of "Living With War" quotes "The Star-Spangled Banner," and the album ends with the choir singing "America the Beautiful."

"Even if it turns out that we can't sell it with the news in it, we won't sell it, we'll just stream it," he said. "We don't have to sell it. We can still get it out there. This has nothing to do with money as far as I'm concerned."

Mr. Young wants the album heard as a whole. The online streams play through from beginning to end; until the CD is ready, the downloadable copies will be available only as a bundle of the full album. "That first impression is so important," he said. "Instead of just going to 'Let's Impeach the President,' people will have to absorb the whole thing. To understand the songs, you need to understand where the whole album's coming from. It protects my right as an artist to have the work presented the way I created it."

Mr. Young has always been impatient with the time lag between writing a song and getting it to the world. When four student protesters were shot dead at Kent State University in 1970, he wrote "Ohio," recorded it with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young and released it two and a half weeks later by sending acetates — preliminary pressings — to radio stations.

"We are the silent majority now, and we haven't done a damn thing," Mr. Young said. "We've stood by and watched this happen. But there's more of us than there is of them, and we have to do something. When people start talking and see they can get away with it, it's going to happen everywhere. It's going to be a landslide, it's going to be a tidal wave. This is just the tip of it."

Mr. Young said that he made "Living With War" not with a plan, but on an impulse. "I don't know what actually did it," he said. "It happened really fast, faster than I think I've ever experienced. There was just a kind of a wave."


I posted parts of the article in FYM because of political content and Fox News' having a bird about a Canadian (albeit one who has lived in US for about 40 years) singing a song about impeachment and I guess criticizing the president in general.
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I will listen to it on his web site, I really want to hear the impeach song

Now the media is reporting that protest songs are "back in vogue" and they always mention his new album. Remember when the Dixie Chicks were demonized for what they said just a few years ago? Maybe the times are a changin.

Is the impeach song played on radio?
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Maybe I am wrong but it seems that while some jerks condemned the Dixie Chicks with vigour just as many reacted by declaring a McCarthyist crusade against them, free speech remains intact.
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There's no way in hell my radio station is going to play any of this. They play pretty cool music but they're a trifle on the conservative side. I'm glad Neil Young is doing this. Good for him.
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Has anyone listened to Pink's song "Dear Mr. President" excellent also.
http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=9eDJ3cuXKV4&eurl&watch2

I listened to Young's albumn today. It's streaming free.


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Ew, I always feel dirty when I go to the FOX News web site but this was there by that John Gibson guy. For your reading pleasure..

"Neil Young, the Canadian singer who has been living in the U.S. for the last 40 years, has released a new album taking a shot at President Bush and the war in Iraq.

It's called "Living With War."

The line that struck me was, "I never bow to the laws of the thought police."

Another song is called "Let's Impeach the President." Impeach him for lying, impeach him for misleading us into war, for spying on people inside their own homes.

Debates with musicians are always problematical. You may have reason on your side, but they've got the rhythm section and the lead guitar. Hard to beat that.

Then there's Pink. She's got a new song called "Mr. President" in which she imagines taking a walk with the president and discussing war, No Child Left Behind, and asks him how he can live with himself.

I'm all for artists speaking out. I lived through the '60s, too. In fact, I worked in the music business back then, and everybody was against war. That was because we started a war we didn't have to. Everybody knew that.

Things are different nowadays for me.

When I think of the war, I think of Flight 93. I wonder if Neil Young and Pink are going to go see that. I wonder if they would accept free tickets from me.

I also commend to them the recent tapes of bin Laden and Zarqawi and Zawahiri. They continue to promise to kill us, as many of us as possible.

In fact, Zarqawi promised just a day or two ago that the worst is yet to come.

Wonder if they listen to Neil Young and Pink? Doubt it.

Think they would spare Neil Young and Pink while they killed the rest of us because, after all, Neil Young and Pink are against war and want peace?

If Zarqawi and bin Laden are against Bush, they must be against war, right?

You might think so if all you listened to was Neil Young and Pink.

The last song on Young's "Living With War" is "America the Beautiful." Unlike the Reconquista crowd, Neil Young didn't change the words. He sings the words as they have always been sung, but you get the feeling that now — on his album "Living With War" — they are an indictment, an accusation.

"America the beautiful, purple mountain majesties. Amber waves of grain from sea to shining sea."

The idea is that in Iraq we have turned our backs on America's ideals.

Young and Pink are angry and sad. 9/11 is a distant memory. They don't feel threatened by anybody but our own president.

This is what it has come to. They are forgetful. They have amnesia. They blame the wrong leaders. They are proud of their opposition. And they couldn't be more wrong.

That's My Word."
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When I think of the war, I think of Flight 93. I wonder if Neil Young and Pink are going to go see that. I wonder if they would accept free tickets from me.

Again I ask how stupid is this guy or
how stupid does he think his viewers are?

Who is not familiar with Neil's "Let's Roll" single? It was hugely popular?




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— Bill O'Reilly, after being confronted on "Good Morning America" with videotape of him saying that if no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, "I will apologize to the nation and I will not trust the Bush administration again." Feb. 10, 2004
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When I think of the war, I think of Flight 93. I wonder if Neil Young and Pink are going to go see that. I wonder if they would accept free tickets from me.

I also commend to them the recent tapes of bin Laden and Zarqawi and Zawahiri. They continue to promise to kill us, as many of us as possible.

Apparently this guy thinks Bin Laden is in Iraq...

Who has amnesia?
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I don't recall Neil Young being the classic dove. Then again, I don't expect John Gibson to understand different shadings. Thanks for posting the article, Mrs. S.
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Ew, I always feel dirty when I go to the FOX News web site but this was there by that John Gibson guy. For your reading pleasure..

"Neil Young, the Canadian singer who has been living in the U.S. for the last 40 years, has released a new album taking a shot at President Bush and the war in Iraq.

It's called "Living With War."

The line that struck me was, "I never bow to the laws of the thought police."

Another song is called "Let's Impeach the President." Impeach him for lying, impeach him for misleading us into war, for spying on people inside their own homes.

Debates with musicians are always problematical. You may have reason on your side, but they've got the rhythm section and the lead guitar. Hard to beat that.

Then there's Pink. She's got a new song called "Mr. President" in which she imagines taking a walk with the president and discussing war, No Child Left Behind, and asks him how he can live with himself.

I'm all for artists speaking out. I lived through the '60s, too. In fact, I worked in the music business back then, and everybody was against war. That was because we started a war we didn't have to. Everybody knew that.

Things are different nowadays for me.

When I think of the war, I think of Flight 93. I wonder if Neil Young and Pink are going to go see that. I wonder if they would accept free tickets from me.

I also commend to them the recent tapes of bin Laden and Zarqawi and Zawahiri. They continue to promise to kill us, as many of us as possible.

In fact, Zarqawi promised just a day or two ago that the worst is yet to come.

Wonder if they listen to Neil Young and Pink? Doubt it.

Think they would spare Neil Young and Pink while they killed the rest of us because, after all, Neil Young and Pink are against war and want peace?

If Zarqawi and bin Laden are against Bush, they must be against war, right?

You might think so if all you listened to was Neil Young and Pink.

The last song on Young's "Living With War" is "America the Beautiful." Unlike the Reconquista crowd, Neil Young didn't change the words. He sings the words as they have always been sung, but you get the feeling that now — on his album "Living With War" — they are an indictment, an accusation.

"America the beautiful, purple mountain majesties. Amber waves of grain from sea to shining sea."

The idea is that in Iraq we have turned our backs on America's ideals.

Young and Pink are angry and sad. 9/11 is a distant memory. They don't feel threatened by anybody but our own president.

This is what it has come to. They are forgetful. They have amnesia. They blame the wrong leaders. They are proud of their opposition. And they couldn't be more wrong.

That's My Word."
BRAVO JOHN GIBSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*STANDING OVATION*

I wonder how many Neil Young fans are serving in Iraq and fighting for his right to put them down......

again........

BRAVO JOHN GIBSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unfortunately I missed this, stupid damn IE/MSN and all you had to download to see it. I gave up.

By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP

"New Jersey's favorite son was adopted by New Orleans on Sunday, as Bruce Springsteen — through speeches and song — vocalized the anger, frustration, pain and resilience of this hurricane-battered city at the annual Jazz & Heritage Festival.

Decrying what he called "criminal ineptitude" in Hurricane Katrina's wake, Springsteen jabbed at the political powers he deemed responsible for New Orleans' slow recovery.

Perhaps the most pointed moment came as he prepared to sing an old song that he had rewritten lyrics to for New Orleans. Noting that he visited the city's ninth ward, perhaps the most devastated area in the city, Springsteen said: "I saw sights I never thought I'd see in an American city," and added: "The criminal ineptitude makes you furious."

With that, he launched into a song titled "How Can A Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live?" and dedicated the song to "President Bystander." Its lyrics included the lines: "There's bodies floatin' on Canal and the levees gone to hell ... them who's got out of town, and them who ain't got left to drown, tell me, how can a poor man stand such times and live?"..

"It was Springsteen who may have provided the most poignant moments. Springsteen eschewed the big hits he's most identified with and instead performed classic folk and gospel songs epitomized by Pete Seeger that are featured on Springsteen's new album, "We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions." Though they were decades old, many of the songs seemed particularly relevant to New Orleans struggles — "Mary Don't You Weep," "Jacob's Ladder," and particularly "My Oklahoma Home," which depicts a man's loss of his home and family after the devastating dust storms there in the 1930s.

But perhaps no song was as bittersweet as "We Shall Overcome." As Springsteen somberly performed the tune, some people embraced each other, others dabbed their eyes. Another emotional moment came as he dedicated one of his old tunes to New Orleans: "My City in Ruins." Though he wrote it for his favorite town of Asbury Park, N.J., its lyrics resonated with the crowd: "Young men on the corner, like scattered leaves, the boarded up windows, the hustlers and thieves, while my brother's down on his knees. My city of ruins."

By the time he sang the chorus, "Come on rise up!" the audience spontaneously rose their hands in their air, symbolizing the pain and the hope of the city."
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BRAVO JOHN GIBSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*STANDING OVATION*

I wonder how many Neil Young fans are serving in Iraq and fighting for his right to put them down......

again........

BRAVO JOHN GIBSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When is this John Gibson guy joining up? I wonder how many John Gibson fans are serving in Iraq?
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9/11!!!!

9/11!!!!!

Why is it that whenever an artist, or anyone else, tries to point out the laws that the president has violated, the idiots on the right always start screaming "9/11!!!!"? Have they nothing else to say? Is there no debate that can't be settled by screaming "9/11!!!!"?
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Is there no debate that can't be settled by screaming "9/11!!!!"?
Not for some people I guess. Make people afraid and then they won't question your logic, I suppose that's the reasoning.

(AP) "Madonna radically altered her music to attack US President George W Bush during her appearance at California music festival Coachella, yesterday.

The Hung Up singer thrilled fans with a six-song set in the Sahara Dance Tent, and took a cheeky swipe at the US leader by changing her song lyrics.

During an energetic rendition of her song I Love New York, Madonna roared, "Just go to Texas and suck George Bush's dick."
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BRAVO JOHN GIBSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*STANDING OVATION*

I wonder how many Neil Young fans are serving in Iraq and fighting for his right to put them down......

again........

BRAVO JOHN GIBSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


quite a bit more than

the Neo-Cons and Chicken Hawks
you give standing ovations to.

and Neil cares a lot more for the soldiers serving than the above mentioned.
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