Lies And The Lying Liars Who Tell Them

[MrsSpringsteen]

Has anyone read this book? I haven't..but I'm curious if there is anything worthwhile in it..what Al rants about, etc...

I think Franken and O'Reilly should just have a boxing match and get it over with

 

[nbcrusader]

There are too many political shock jocks on both sides of the aisle (no need for partisan rants).

I am sure there are better things to read out there.

 

[verte76]

My dad's reading this book! He sort of likes it. I don't like ideological rants so I probably won't read it.

 

[ThatGuy]

I think Franken and O'Reilly should just have a boxing match and get it over with

I'd like to see that, too. Maybe Bill can use some of that gritty, working-class gumption he got from growing up poor in Leavittown.

I've read the book, and I enjoyed it very much. I did feel that some of the humor detracted from the message, but he is a comedian so I can't really fault him for that. Some of the lies got me pretty mad, like those told about the memorial service for Paul Wellstone. Overall, I'd highly recommend it.

 

[ThatGuy]

There are too many political shock jocks on both sides of the aisle (no need for partisan rants).

I am sure there are better things to read out there.

You should at least flip through it next time you're in a bookstore before you write it off as a work by a "political shock-jock", NB. That way you can form a more informed opinion about it.

 

[nbcrusader]

You should at least flip through it next time you're in a bookstore before you write it off as a work by a "political shock-jock", NB. That way you can form a more informed opinion about it.

I've seen the author on a couple of talk shows discussing the book. Satire that preaches to the choir.

 

[melon]

But I guess we can look at our "fair and balanced" alternative...

Melon

 

[Scarletwine]

I am reading the book now. What I like about it is Franken had 10 harvard students doing his research so it is at least factual, regardless of the conclusions he draws. I think it's worth a read. I especially enjoyed some of his humor.

Ann Coulter is loco, per many of her conservative peers.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Noooooooo, what is she doing in my thread?

 

[Scarletwine]

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Bunbury]

But I guess we can look at our "fair and balanced" alternative...

Melon

She needs to get laid she probably hasn't had it in a while, maybe that's why she so uptight

 

[STING2]

Scarletwine,

And Harvard is known as a non-biased, centrist institution politically?

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

But I guess we can look at our "fair and balanced" alternative...

Melon

Heh, really.

I haven't read her book, but just from what I've heard about her and about that book....

I also haven't read Franken's book yet, either...but I did see Al on a show talking about it one night...got a lot more respect for him after seeing him on T.V. Someone needs to point out how screwed up Fox News is. I'm glad it was him.

Perhaps I'll look for both of those books and read them sometime soon.

Angela

 

[nbcrusader]

She needs to get laid she probably hasn't had it in a while, maybe that's why she so uptight

Is that an opinion of Coulter, conservative women in general, or women who don't agree with you?

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Geez, I don't like her either, but that's more than a wee bit sexist, that comment..

Sorry, but

 

[Bunbury]

Is that an opinion of Coulter, conservative women in general, or women who don't agree with you?

No, just a JOKE about Coulter and the way she is. She's an attrative looking woman it's just when she's speak her conservative babble that I can't stand her
I don't know what made you say that I say the same thing to all women that disagree with me, bit odd to say that

 

[nbcrusader]

It was a reference to her being so "uptight". Being a conservative does not make one uptight.

It sounded like a disagreement with opinions turned into an attack on character.

 

[Bunbury]

It was a reference to her being so "uptight". Being a conservative does not make one uptight.

It sounded like a disagreement with opinions turned into an attack on character.

Yea, wrong term to use. I guess I equate conservatism to being uptight. Other people in here a calling her "crazy" so I would say that's an attack of her character also
But again it was a joke, what else can I say

 

[nbcrusader]

No worries

 

[Scarletwine]

Naw, she is INSANE

 

[nbcrusader]

Naw, she is INSANE

And this from the person who said (about Michael Moore):

I take real offense at your definition of MM as a POLITICAL WACKO.

Nice

 

[melon]

Ann Coulter is to conservatism as Howard Stern is to liberalism.

Take that as you will.

Melon

 

[verte76]

"Slander" is at work, but I haven't read it. I really don't like ideological polemics, either liberal or conservative. We also have a book of Michael Moore's and I haven't read it either.
*practicing equal opportunity reading habits*

 

[TylerDurden]

Well! Fox bashing! My favourite!

Ok, that blonde woman who talks out the side of her mouth? Aside from what she says, the way she talks just really really annoys me.

And whatshisname Hannity is without a doubt the stupidest person to ever be employed by a 'news' network. His sidekick isn't much better.


My main issue with Fox isn't that it's right leaning, it's just how dumbed down it is. It's like you are watching a parody, but it's not. It's scary that people watch it as a serious news source.

 

[melon]

FOX News is pretty much a television version of conservative talk radio. It has less to do with "news" as it does with "commentary."

Melon

 

[sue4u2]

My main issue with Fox isn't that it's right leaning, it's just how dumbed down it is. It's like you are watching a parody, but it's not. It's scary that people watch it as a serious news source.

This I agree with!

 

[BVS]

Ann Coulter is to conservatism as Howard Stern is to liberalism.

Take that as you will.

Melon

But politically Howard Stern is not that liberal...

 

[pub crawler]

melon, I might be misunderstanding you, but Howard Stern is quite conservative.

 

[melon]

melon, I might be misunderstanding you, but Howard Stern is quite conservative.

Sigh...

Irrespective of reality (Stern ran for political office once as a Libertarian, probably as a joke), Stern is perceived by the public and his detractors as "liberal." But he's a fanatic, whose rants are more "entertainment" than news. I would argue that, at the other end of the political spectrum, Coulter is the same--a fanatic, whose rants are more "entertainment" than news, although I think she certainly takes herself more seriously than Stern does.

Melon

 

[nbcrusader]

The illustration was done to distinguish "wackos" like Ann Coulter from "intelligent" liberal ranters like Michael Moore.