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Old 08-17-2006, 02:40 PM   #181
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You couldn't name ONE war that wasn't miscalculated.
But could you name one as miscalculated as this one.

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I'd normally demand you to, but I wouldn't want to make your head explode.
Wow, you've been back 2 days and already a personal attack, nothing changes with you does it?
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:42 PM   #182
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I never said time table. In fact if they planned ahead the insurgents wouldn't be a factor. If this war was planned the borders would be guarded before we occupied, therefore we could rebuild without constant terrorist attacks.

But no that would have been too much thinking and planning.
Now that it's year 2006, let's talk 2006.

If you think the withdrawl based on progress and the withdrawl by timetable are both bad policies, then what is YOUR solution?
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:48 PM   #183
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If you think the withdrawl based on progress and the withdrawl by timetable are both bad policies, then what is YOUR solution?
When did I say withdrawl based on progress is a bad policy?
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But could you name one as miscalculated as this one.
Wow, you've gone off the cliff with this one. Let's see, WWII would have been a lot less serious had we turned down our isolationist policies that are being duplicated today by France and Germany - the ultimate oil hags. Vietnam, not necessarily for the time we entered, but how it was fought. We had too many troops on the ground, and we - especially with LBJ - wouldn't throw a bomb if it would've won the war within very few years. With Nixon's would've made the best out of a bad situation, but he turned out to be a two-faced crook who deserved what he got, even though the Vietnamese did not.
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When did I say withdrawl based on progress is a bad policy?
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Yeah, I'm surprised people actually consider this a real "plan".

I mean, it's worked so well so far.
I was given the impression that you did.
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Yes, for people like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, it sure is tragic.


um, did you happen to notice how many civilians have been killed in Iraq over the past 3 months?
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um, did you happen to notice how many civilians have been killed in Iraq over the past 3 months?
And do the figures discount the terrorists who hide among the civilian population?
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Wow, you've gone off the cliff with this one.
Well I won't get into it, for we're off topic, the point is the issues with Iraq were all foreseeable and ignored...
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I was given the impression that you did.
Well once again you are clouding two entirely different issues.

Yes pulling out of Iraq, at this point, under a time table would be useless.

But this is NOT a "plan" against terrorism. Terrorism will continue even if a democracy is in place and the Iraqi army is stable.

There is no plan against terrorism right now.
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Let's get back on topic...
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And do the figures discount the terrorists who hide among the civilian population?


do you know what the figures are?

let's start there, and THEN you can talk about how they're all just terrorists.

i know all arabs look alike.

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Well once again you are clouding two entirely different issues.

Yes pulling out of Iraq, at this point, under a time table would be useless.

But this is NOT a "plan" against terrorism. Terrorism will continue even if a democracy is in place and the Iraqi army is stable.

There is no plan against terrorism right now.
I don't doubt the continuing existence of terrorism, which is why the Iraqis need a massive military.

However, IRAN, N. KOREA, and other nations that could assist terrorist groups should be monitored with extreme caution. I agree with exhausting every diplomatic solution - although I'm not sure that it will do much to stop what they have in mind. If that's the case, we have to protect the innocent one way or another.
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Let's get back on topic...
You mean Lieberman??
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You mean Lieberman??
I think that was it.
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You couldn't name ONE war that wasn't miscalculated. I'd normally demand you to, but I wouldn't want to make your head explode.
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