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Old 06-22-2005, 09:34 AM   #16
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It'll get passed. Most of the Bloc party, the NDP and the Libs will support it. You'll have opposition from probably all of the Conservatives and a few of Liberals own caucus. Conservatives will want to drag it out, to try to get their polling numbers up over the summer, but they'll be preaching to the converted.

The no confidence votes are for show. Nobody wants a national election at this time, especially the Conservatives, seeing how far behind they are in Ontario.
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Judah is dead right!

The Bloc are as left as the NDP and they support this legislation. It will pass. Im sure of it.
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Yeah. Stay optimistic. It may still have a ways to go, but that doesn't automatically mean bad news for it .

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this evening, thanks to a lib-bloc deal, the house will approve of an extension of the HOC sitting period. the bloc supports the notion on the grounds that same-sex gets passed, and the real carrot for the liberals is the passing of the ndp's budget spending addendum which will also pass in the days to come.

to an onlooker, canada would appear to swing wildly to the left in the coming week.

the stage has clearly been set for the election with liberal accomplishments and tory whining.
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Yep, they passed the extension on the Parliament session opening the door for approval of same-sex marriage legislation AND caught the conservatives off guard by passing a motion to end debate on C-48 ( the NDP section promoting $4.8 billion more in social spending). They then called for a vote and it passed. Sneaky buggers

Also, today in New Brunswick, their courts opened the way for same-sex marriage leaving only PEI, the Northwest Territories and Alberta as the only provinces/territories without same-sex marriage. Alberta will never allow it as long as King Ralph is there but screw them. 90% of the country and the federal government will recognize same-sex marriage in Canada within a few short weeks.

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Also, today in New Brunswick, their courts opened the way for same-sex marriage


at long last, my conservative province gets with the program.
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I'm very much in favour of this bill, but I have to laugh at how it passed. A secret late-night vote? Did Martin see that episode of West Wing from a few months ago?

For the record, Harper is now batting a solid .000 as Conservative leader. Get this clown out of power, please.
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tonight's the night for the vote on the same sex marriage bill, and it looks like it should easily pass.

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tonight's the night for the vote on the same sex marriage bill, and it looks like it should easily pass.

Can you already feel the foundations of your society starting to tremble?
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Iam keeping all my fingers and toes crossed!
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Good luck Canada! Maybe your southern neighbors will wake up and do the right thing in oh...another 100 years or so.
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For the record, Harper is now batting a solid .000 as Conservative leader. Get this clown out of power, please.
No, no...please keep him in. He's so helping to keep the right wingers off the radar.

His latest tact, saying the Bloc votes for same-sex marriage bill shouldn't count, since the Bloc doesn't really represent Canadians' interest, just Quebeckers.

Of course, Harper and the Conservatives had no problem siding with the Bloc a few weeks ago to try to defeat the government.

Hypocrite.

Out of all of this, Layton and the NDP look the most with it. But then, given the others' political history, that's not much of a challenge.
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The British Empire ended slavery in 1809, the year Lincoln was born. The U.S. ended slavery in 1865, the year Lincoln died.

When it comes to human rights, the U.S. is historically behind the times.

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i am friends with a couple of people within the conservative parties executive group and one in particular who works within their communications team. i cannot understand how this group allows their leader to present such unbelievably asinine views. perhaps he is just a loose cannon. either way, ill be mildly surprised if harper makes it to another election as leader, let alone win it. if he were to make it while there is presently no hope for a conservative majority, his government wouldnt last the morning as he is pulled any hope of coalition building out from underneath him.



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OTTAWA (CP) -- Stephen Harper says any gay marriage law will be stamped with illegitimacy because it will owe its passage to Quebec separatists.

Same-sex marriage legislation, which is expected to become law later this week with the votes of the Bloc Quebecois, would have been thwarted if only federalists MPs were casting ballots, the Conservative leader said Monday.

"Because it's being passed with the support of the Bloc, I think it will lack legitimacy with most Canadians," Harper told CBC Newsworld.

"The truth is most federalist MPs oppose this."

Conservative justice critic Vic Toews went further.

"The federalist MPs in Canada, the majority of them, would oppose (gay marriage) on a free vote. So what we are seeing now is simply an agreement by this government with the separatist Bloc -- who have no long-term interest in staying in Canada."
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